160lbs Alec Ortiz -OR vs. Dallas Bailey Catoosa-Ok : Speakers & Interviews

Kolb pounded Ortiz 8-3 (all of Ortiz's points were when Kolb let him up) and Kemerer handled Bailey 5-2 in the Dapper Dan about 1-2 weeks before this.

If your going to talk about a rule you should learn it first. Once locked hands are called the match does not continue for a brief period of time allowing someone the chance to start an escape. The match is stopped "immediately" unless the escape is already in progress.

that locked hands call was ridiculous... the ref has to let the offensive wrestler know he scored the takedown otherwise there's no reason for him to release the lock

Ortiz is going to Minnesota

both of ya are raw i meaqn damn if i could scramble like that i would not ever loss good job to both of ya and good luck in college.

Dont agree with the lock hands call but...Great match either way. Hopefully they see each other again in college. Where is Ortiz going to school?

refs drop the ball again. what a joke

I think the ref should have let him know he had a takedown -- you know, by saying "two takedown" so he can hear it. Otherwise, he is continuing his takedown to a pinning combination with locked hands -- which is leagal (in any state in the nation -- (except for maybe Mississippi where people don't wrestle).

there was not control awarded at 4:38

thats bogus at the end of the 2nd. you need to put up the 2 point takedown and verbally tell the wrestler before he can be expected to let go of his clasp.

So and so beat so and so once and one guy wrestled this other guy and so and so beat this one guy and he beat this other guy who beat that guy and he lost to the other guy.

So that one guy I mentioned wooduh beat that one guy that beat that other guy.

Bailey was clearly gassed at the end of that one - saved by the clock

ive wrestled both of these gentleman as well as kenny courts from central dauphin who is a sophmore and i am 100% confident that kenny courts is probably better than both of these gentleman. and probably jake kemerer is the best 160 pounder

and to answer some of question#30 kemerer beat dallas 5-2 im not sure but the final score of the other match was but it was no contest

both of these kids lost to pennsylvania wrestlers in the dapper dan classic

how can you call locking hands when your face to face with your opponent?

nasty duck

good scrambling match. chess match.

I actually think Ortiz never had control- look at their position when the buzzer goes off at 4:54.

I don't think Ortiz can complain too much about the calls in that situation . He came out ahead- net gain of one point when none should have been awarded.

The takedown is called at 4:50. At that point Ortiz's hands are locked. Bailey doesn't go to his back until 4:53. Clearly should be called locking hands- no back points. The only reason Ortiz was able to put him on his back is because his hands were locked.

Hypothetical scenario: If I'm on top, lock my hands around a guy's waist, and then 3 seconds later gut wrench him to his back, I don't get back points, I get called for a technical violation. From a rules standpoint- it's basically the same scenario here. (Although on the human level it's a little more forgivable given the way the takedown was called. Ortiz may not have been aware he'd been awarded 2 even though the ref signaled it clearly.)

bailey is gonna be a more succesful collegiate wrestler.

Kinda unsual how niether ref gave the singal for locking hands nor did they verbally say "Locking Hands" to the wrestlers, overall an exciting match, an what about the nearfall?? Completly took the 2 points away

When did Kermerer and Kolb face these guys? Details and scores?

6:33 dirty takedown of the week

WHoever said that bailey dominated is an idiot. That was an bad call on the locking hands. He had him on his back.

Lets just get this "home cooking" call out of the way right now. First off, once a wrestler is awarded the takedown, they cannot lock their hands around both legs. In every state in the nation, that should be called locked hands. Furthermore, once a locked hands call is made, the match continues for a brief period of time - giving the other wrestler time to score an escape. Once a locked hands call is made, the top wrestler cannot score any back points no matter the situation. The perimeter offical did his job and called it. It WAS the right call, not "home cookin" as some of you whine for.

I can't understand why Kemerer and Kolb didn't get picked. They dominated both of these guys

Ortiz was lucky to even be awarded that take down. That ref avoided stoppin the match just to give him a chance, and he still barely pulled it out. He got out wrestled, hands down. Not to say that it would go that way every match, but it did this time.

the clasping was not on the nearfall but for when he locked hands at about 4:38

one of those refs reffed at d-1's this year...

terrible refs... ortiz won that one, clearly.

You can't lock hands when you have a guy on his back and are getting back points. The refs could have called locked hands right before he took him to his back after they awarded the takedown and before he took him to his back. However, you can't be called for locked hands when you have a guy in a pinning combo which Ortiz did when he rolled and took him to his back. In my opinion you either give the back points or don't...but the locked hands was a ridiculous call.

oritz is a f.ag

that was a really bizzare locked hands call... I dont k now why the ref held off on calling that takedown for so long, that was some pretty poor officiating

so what does that say about USAW then? not exactly hiring the best refs for this big dual.

The Refs are hired by USA wrestling not Oklahoma
So there's no home cooking there

locking hands while the guy is on his back? that's a new one for me. homecooking yet again.

"at least when cali sends boys to the dapper dan, they win!!
oregon, you effin suck!"
this is the dream team dual also, geiger and fortune won last year..

ca won against mediocre kids. OR wrestled top level competiton and lost, even if the refs homecooked those matches.

A.C. is right you can lock hands when scoring near fall .

anybody else see the elbow to the head at the end haha

i thought you could keep your hands locked after a takedown when scoring nearfall criteria

Bailey is one funky cat

that was one hell of a battle!

at least when cali sends boys to the dapper dan, they win!!
oregon, you effin suck!

beat

ok. better wrestler lost? he has bet this kid more than once!

the better wrestler lost this one. lil home cookin with the lack of back points and locked hands. 3 point swing. Bailey can't defend his legs

Bailey getting his ass kickedd the whole match lmao ok.... Bailey won hands down Bailey is one of the best at 160 hands down.

bailey wrestled great, he earned that win

bailey gets his ass kicked the whole match and wins......wrestling is a funny sport sometimes.

nice call in there with the locked hands gotta love when a main ref will actually listen to the observer