If any of this is true, it only pises off Clovis because they don't like to be out-recruited! I wish Pearce and Snapp were going to be coaching at CW. They would be a great addition to ANY program.
Best new Coaching Staff has now aquired! You ask where? Well here it is-Clovis West is going to win State with this great coaching staff Zimmer, Husein, Shaw, and Ramirez!!! Watch Out Clovis High and Selma the big dogs have joined together!
"too cla.ssy" u can't write a s s in a word (;
Coach Shields is too cly to do something like that, but Coach T probably wouldn't get caught out in public by himself either. hahahaha
see.. the word Gles (drinking item in plural) spelled g l a s s e s will not type out correctly on this forum........... strange... it's acting like I am cussin or sumpthing... keeps coming up gles
ILOVECLOVIS posted about 11 hours ago.
Still running her BIG mouth.
btw , GOT EIGHT? WE DO!!
the best part of all this is you guys are consumed with clovis wrestling and will not admit it, so all you do is put the program and all who are involved with it down. I find this strange how this could make you feel better, but more power to you. too bad you can't get over clovis, but really how could you? 9 in 09 will be with or without you. keep working cougars.
why don't you bring some of your best to Cali and see what we got for them. you will be 1000% guaranteed competition and will definitely be the better for it. and maybe a bit more respectful -
Balch should be reinstated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New president, new coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone who is unbiased cannot look at rod balch's career in wrestling and say he hasn't had a positive impact. you may not like him personally or know him personally but he is a good coach who did alot of good at chs before transferring to bhs and making an impact there. tirepele took over where balch left off and has continued the good work balch started and chs. there are very good coaches who have had their names dragged through the mud because of personal differences and unhealthy rivalries. tirapele, balch, riley, pierce, morales, are just a few. so if the fences were truly mended, these coaches wouldn't still be the topic of everyone's negative comments. they would be recognized as the good coaches they are and left to move on to another program or to continue their quest for 9 in 09.
if you're going to post on here, use your own name nope is mine and i'm not thankful balch is gone he is a great coach who has done alot for both chs and bhs
btw , GOT EIGHT? WE DO!!
the best part of all this is you guys are consumed with clovis wrestling and will not admit it, so all you do is put the program and all who are involved with it down. I find this strange how this could make you feel better, but more power to you. too bad you can't get over clovis, but really how could you? 9 in 09 will be with or without you. keep working cougars.
Pa wrestling is the tops in this country Chs and Bhs would like to think they
are something, but your coaches are hiding come on out we would love to whip your kids and let them leave the mats with mat burn from the experience
Our parents will meet you parents at alocal watering hole so you can cool off from the flames you will be breathing after taking a beating
come on out to PA we would relish the opportunity to whoop your kids into an oblivion at any rotational.
the parents of Bhs and Chs on this forum are unappreciative idiots they cry about one another and its really funny to watch.
If mending fences is good, then Clovis will probably get to borrow more kids in the future. First McAlester goes over Clovis, I wonder who will follow him? Look for more move overs in the near future. (i wouldn't talk about this kid he's very nice)
by the way these are not my posts:
it is hard to be objective when your head is up someones fanny. just ask the clovis butsniffers
you are an idiot
your wrong, i do want the two teams to get along that's why i call bs on the parents who say they already have mended the fences and then talk bad about the team as soon as an opportunity pops up. those are the people who keep the feud going, not me, the ones who refuse to see any problems that exist because all is well in whatever dream world they live in. ct might be good for bhs, but so far the problems he's caused outnumber the good things he's done. steve tirepele may be good for chs but the hard feelings he's caused in the trac outnumber some of the good things he's done. i'm no expert just a trac fan and very curious observer. with so many good teams in such a small area it's normal for there to be a competitive nature to the teams, but the way these teams act toward each other is embaring to the central valley. having parents and fans tearing each other up on flo doesn't help either i've been called unaccountable, uncredible, riley, pierce, morales, balch, negative, idiot, and my personal favorite weak because i don't talk to the ceremello guy who has become the chs spokesperson. i say if your going to put anything on here at least be honest, chs and bhs still boo each other, argue constantly, fight about everything from timeouts, water breaks, disputes with rules on the mat, attitudes, recruiting, transfers, parent support, just sit in the stands and listen, you'll be an expert too. i've been around this sport for over 30 years, i've seen alot but what these two teams have put eachother through in the last 4-5 years is rediculous.
dream jobs are made in other school districts where parents appreciate the coaches and dont just expect the coach to put in all the free time it takes in order to be good.dream jobs are in places where the parents still offer to throw a nice bbq for the coaches on a regular basis to show some appreciation and get to know the individuals
facts are
say what you want about CT the school went on a nationwide search for the right guy and did its due dilligence and hired him.the guy has connections throughout the united states and could get a job anywhere tomorrow if needed
what makes you the authority on clovis & buchanan? you seem to think you know everything and yet, you probably have NOTHING to do with either program. you seem to want these two teams to not get along. listen if your not involved, then stay out of it! why is it only these two schools that are getting ripped apart?
i didn't post the post about someone being an idiot, plus no i don't know anymore than a huge track supporter would the trac teams were something to be proud of about 4 or 5 years ago but the coaches, fans and parents have made wresling in the trac an embarrasment in the last several years. if you've been around enough you get to know all the players in this soap opera that we call trac wresling now and you don't have to be smart to see the problems just sit at a tournament and watch the bhs fans look everywhere but the mat when a clovis kid is wresling and listen to the two teams boo each other with every win watch the coaches smile and make nice but talk crap later. then when you come on any forum all we hear is how great clovis is and how negative bucanan is but how they have mended fences, tell it to someone who will believe it
back it up back it up back it up, you sound like a broken record first off only about half of the posts from nope are mine, second i don't have to put my name on here to state the obvious. if there is a negative statement on here every clovis fan jumps on it and calls that person riley or peirce or a bhs supporter, including you. then you want to talk about mending fences and how the parents are so happy with the new coach that lead them to a state championship, oh that's right he didn't. half the team won't listen to him, won't shake his hand, and talk openly about how they don't respect him, but you want us to believe the team loves him because you signed your name and one parent is happy with him and they told you about of course. we'll see how much love there is for him in how many bhs wreslers stay next year. then your statement will have credibility. anyone who puts their name on here is ridiculed, called names, and attacked ferociously, and you wonder why nobody else wants to put their name, don't wonder anymore. you must have a personal problem with the former coaches of bhs, riley peirce, morales, and balch, but why can't you keep that private, they aren't involved in the school anymore. but they also had some other really good coaches that fell victem to ct's juvinile rantings, what about silva, zhan, lugo? they didn't fight with anyone and they were let go. i'm just an observor and i know what i see, what most of us see when looking at these teams and the fence is not mended, but since ceremello is the spokesperson for chs and he says it is i guess we should all believe him because he signed his name.
Fencemending, I Don't Hink So. June 7, 2008 at 10:53am
Whatever you say about that is mostly a fantasy. The Zinkin was early in the year, things changed as far as the coaching staff, and the attitudes of the kids and parents. Two good things came out of the season though. We had two state champions (0 for Clovis).
I remember when Cindy came to a BHS football game early this year. She just showed up to flaunt her new colors, and act like she was better than everyone else. It was pretty brazen of her.
Nope.....A couple of things that I am and your not.....1-credible and 2-I'm accountable...you might not like or agree about what I say but my name is right here for everyone to see and I stand by what I say. I have thrown people under the bus just as easily as I have complimented, which means I'm not phony. I have proven not to be one-sided. Your words have no backbone, like you, that is what everyone sees on this forum. Cry all you want but that is a fact.
i like how everybody who doesn't agree that clovis high is godlike is riley or pierce like they just sit on the computer and wait for someone to put something nice about clovis on flowrestling so they can say something negative. you really need to realise that nobody is fooled by the phony niceness and we're mending the fences motto. i still call bs because everybody is too fast to blame bucanan for negative comments plus you might have found the only parent on the team who is happy with ct but then again if they were talking to ceremelo about the team then what are the chances the rest of the parents are talking to them?
ceremello is a great kid he is pretty good wrastler for his time just wonder what your feeding him mr ceremello what weight will he be projected after this long summer ?
McAlester is a great kid. I'm glad to have got to know him. I was little pissed he ran over my water faucet with the quad,5 acres and he has to pick my faucet, but like I have said before it was a mistake that could be fixed. LOL...........Cindy has done a fine job.
how you mention that kid, you must be one of the riley crew! If the riley crew is so good at coaching why haven't they got a new program going there are plenty of them! Oh, and if you guys do make sure you add chap snapp to your jr high program with shields!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha
If mending fences is good, then Clovis will probably get to borrow more kids in the future. First McAlester goes over Clovis, I wonder who will follow him? Look for more move overs in the near future.
that would be the OLD Buchanan staff not the new one. Riley,Pearce,Balch,and Morales. Maybe daddy Balch stepping onto the mat during Andrews matches to dispute calls when he is was NOT a coach had something to do with Andrew not shaking his hand, I can't imagine CT being to happy about daddy butting in. Once at Valley and at Masters. Those two were loyal to Riley not CT, maybe there was some bitter feelings over that also. You forgot the H in that bs statement. Like I said parents on that team that I talked to were VERY happy with CT. The fences are not mended for you, that is obvious.
i think that i'm calling bs on all of you because you say the teams have mended the fences and they are getting along now because of ct but when someone posts something you don't like you were really quick to accuse them of being from bucanan. ct did such a good job with two wrestlers who wouldn't even shake his hand after their wins in the finals that is what all the rest of us saw. so talk all you want about how the team loves ct and the fences have been mended because everyone knows it's not true.
CT did a great job he got Andrew Balch and Arrodondo to get in shape and wrestle instead of calling time outs!! The coaches before didn't do that for those kids! So he made a great decision on gettin rid of the old coaching staff!
I would hope Riley or Pearce or someone from BHS could at least spell Buchanan! I'm guessing it is someone that knows nothing about the two schools but likes to think he does! Just thinking he thinks he is a coach, but is NOT!
I would love for you to go call CT a butt kisser and a joke to his face. You are one of those people that you say are "stabbing a knife in the back" it just happens to be CTs right now,probably will be mine soon. The parents I talk to from Buchanan like CT. After the Zinkin this last year CT and Steve got both teams together to start mending fences, the parents that were left there that I talked to, from both sides, seemed happy. Since that tournament I started to see a change in the interaction between the schools, not all of the people, but enough to make a noticable difference. When Buchanan was at Las Vegas this last year I and most I know wanted Buchanan to be successful and win that tournament. Most were happy they did well. If Buchanan chooses not to cheer for Clovis than that is their choice and vise a versa but there at least seems to be more common respect between the two. With the exeception of you. You must be from Buchanan becuase I don't hear that on the Clovis side, anymore.
clovis will never cheer for bucanan and bucanan won't cheer for them. they pretend to put there differences aside since ct started kissing butt to everyone in the trac but they all think he's a joke and worse than that is his team hates him and most of them are leaving because of him. bhs has gone through stuff because ct ran off all the coaches that were left after their coaches got fired. the whole clovis wresling scene is a bunch of people patting each other on the back smiling to each others faces and stabbing a knife in your back while they do it. sick man, just sick.
Stop the gossip before it starts. Leave BHS/CT alone, that school has gone through enough this last year. I believe Buchanan & Clovis will develop into a healthy cross town rivalry.
Funny that you would mention that. The Bears have kind of fallen apart ever since he came on the scene. I don't look for him to last very long. I heard that he applied to Lemoore.
wait and see than and we will see who is being ridiculous. I say Clovis would, it is a different relationship between the schools now that CT has taken over.
only clovis supports clovis nobody else wants to see them win cause then we have to listen to them brag all year long about how good they are and how everyone else is jealous. we don't want another year of the crap.
When any California team goes outside of the state California fans should be supporting that team. Selma should get supported when they are at ironman as Clovis should be supported at powerade as Buchanan should be supported at las Vegas as Vacaville should be supported at the Minnesota duels.
Jealous, if you are from Clovis don't let these comments get to you. We all know that Clovis is the premier team in the state and teams like Selma, Lemoore, Bakersfield, etc. want to beat you. That is the nature of the sport, competition.
I have determined all of you Clovis haters are people that are just plain jealous of the program. Sad but true! Oh well, we will continue to train and be the best while you sit around and complain. Maybe if you put a little effort in, you might just be a state champion. Your probably just lazy though!
the beast is a perfect tournament for clovis to go to. half of the teams there are like clovis, they got kids from other school districts on there teams. its like a convention for move in teams.
If one of Californias best can't win on the east coast than that would embar all of Califormia not just Clovis. Clovis has gone back east 3 times and faired pretty well. 2nd at powerade,top ten at beast of the east and first at the Bergman. Powerade again this coming year,yet to be determened, Not to shabby. Narrow minded people only see it as Clovis, true California wrestling fans see it as California.
Zimmer dreams and it's ok to dream everyone has got a plan til they step into the ring and start taking punches
its my hmo that their is to much unrest in the clovis west camp
now if an all-start lineup was put together and it went on the road in Ohio or Pa and the line up included the areas absolute best at each weight then ya that team could be on a higher level and have a better opportunity to compete and then lil stevies ego would not be bent outta direction
if clovis were to go on the road and take a beating it would be an embarment to the program for sure.why face big time programs in a dual setting in Ohio or Pa when everyone understands the cougars cant compete on that level getting banged up brusied would not boad well for the coaches ego.
I agree with fruit cake clovis ,
It's a fact the cougars would get the whoop down in Pa or Ohio it's true the Tirapelles are scared to take their kids into hostile waters so they go other directions where they can lay a beating and avoid the battle.
Only Monday, Wednesday and Friday. If I was out on Monday, I was sneaking around with your wife....I have an alibi though ;-)If I was out Wednesday night, I came back on Thursday morning. If I was out on Friday evening I came back Monday morning. And if you are a man you have no balls. If you are a woman you deserve a guy with no balls. If you are the girlyman that you act like, you are probably not paying your full share of child support, that makes you a deadbeat dad.
No one has answered the question why nobody seems to leave Clovis? Everyone accuses of recruitment. Just seems like common sense to me that if everyone wants to get into the program and know one seems to leave, it might just be the best place to be.
losts of teams are speckled with moveins and transfers good & bad wrestlers. only at clovis it shows the kids get better. then people like Snap(?) can post stats to let us know who they are. other schools have the same they just didnt place at state. this may not be popular, but im glad Snap Statman did this. it says to me that if i wanted the best for my kid, clovis would be the place to go. jmo.
I bet ya that other teams would have similar numbers. Who cares? No body is hurt, no body is slandered. if this junk is wrong lets here about it. Im not beliving that anyone got their crap hot over it. U r a bunch of panseys.
To Set The Record Straight
This is a breakdown of Coach T's Move-In & Transfer vs. Home Grown State place winners over the last seven seasons. You can view the individual student athletes at http://www.cloviswrestling.com
For this analysis the Coach's son is excluded. Technically he is a transfer, but is a justified transfer. Analysis Excludes Tirapelle:
SPW=State Place Winners T=Transfer-Move In C=Clovis-Home Grown
2002: 2 SPW; 2T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2003: 6 SPW; 5T - 1C; 83% Transfer / 17% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Boundary Change
2004: 3 SPW; 3T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2005: 1 SPW; 1T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2006: 4 SPW; 2T - 2C; 50% Transfer / 50% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2007: 5 SPW; 3T - 2C; 60% Transfer / 40% Clovis
2008: 7 SPW; 4T - 3C; 57% Transfer / 43% Clovis
Here is the list that I have compiled as to where our Clovis area teachers, coaches, and administrators have occasionally frequented an Friday afternoons. We affectionately refer to them as "staff development or debriefings" in any case, it is also called appy Hour by these fine establishments. Yosemite Falls, Cool Hand Luke's, Peacock Restuarant, Jimbo's, 500 Club, Jim's Place, Good Fellas, Tuffy's, Michaelangelo's, Henry's, Kimmie's, Bobby Salazar's, and Grog's. Keep in mind that these little get-togethers take place about once every 2-3 weeks apart. Everybody always conducts themselves properly, and with class. It isn't a big deal as it is done by groups of faculties from all levels of education. Quite often the vast majority of us are wearing shirts that identify us as being members of any particular school. On Fridays most of us wear jeans and school shirts. We openly and proudly advertise our school affiliations. Hope that explains "the drinking" accusations. If you were there and saw us out, you were probably tossing back a few cold one yourself.
So far all I have been reading from both sides is you cheat,no you cheated first, well this is how you cheated ,and then from the other side,this is how you cheated. Then the personal attacks about drinking
,and having to much fun,and who's watching the kids! Kids transfer and they do not do it on their own, so who is to blame I know its the Liberals those a$$holes have a had in everything! The funny thing is we all know most teams that are good have someone recruit for them be the parents or the kids themselves, just like we all know about redshirting, but these are wrestlings dirty little secrets and our sections will do little to curb these actions, so we go on business as usual, and we wonder why we are looked at as a second tear sport. We have to be better than those other big money sports when it comes to ETHICS and that is something that has been lacking in this thread ethics!
maybe a few of them, but not all of them as it seems you have suggested. That does sound right. People are accusing me of things I have not done also so it seems to be more than just a few clovis fans but some fans of other schools as well!!
let me see, clovis high fans are mad that someone is talking bad about them so they name several people who it could be. then when they try to defend themself they are liars and clovis high fans rip them up for lying. so your mad someone is talking about you so it's okay to talk about someone else even if they may not have done anything. okay i'm reall clear now?
how do u hate or dislike someone you dont even know ? according to the majority many dont even know shields personally so all the haters dont even know Jim too funny " must be ceremello "
Come on Jason Pearce why do you kid yourself!! You talk so much crap about Clovis High Wrestling not only on here but to parents and other coaches!! Once again acting so innocent!!!
Coach Pearce, don't expect any responses from these gutless clowns. I put my phone number out there, and so far I have had no takers. They are pretty good at making accusations, but they fall short in backing them up with proof or a personal contact. My e-mail address is:
First and only post on flo, never stired the pot on here and on the CA forum always signed my name. Nice try! As for the email addy, don't wait for 4 days to contact me....lol
I love how you come across so innocent! Get over your self Pearce. Funny you don't like people saying negative things about you, but you have no problem bashing other people. Get real and come clean. 4 more days on your CUSD email. Then what?
So: You are correct, the unofficial post's were to stir up the pot and bash the Clovis High Wrestling program.
This is my first official post on Flowrestling, so here it goes. As for the stats deal: I had nothing to do with them or know where they came from. Buchanan might not of won a state championship without the Bogers. Just like Clovis might not have won their last 2 state titles without their transfers. Transfers happen, it's how they get to the schools of choice where people seem to have the problem.
The drinking comment was a hoot, since all of my friends and the people close to me know since I have had 2 heart attacks, that I can't drink more than one drink and I rarely do that. Now if you are talking about my college days then I am guilty as charged...lol
Finaly, I know not everyone is going to like me, that's the nature of the beast, does it bother me, sure on some level, but I am human. Please do not include my name on here, this is getting old, if you have something negative to say to me please contact me personaly at
Using Coached Rather Loosely June 2, 2008 at 3:44pm
i once showed a move to an eventual Olympic Champ, but i don't list him as someone i coached. pad that resume. it impresses the ignorant.....and it's easier than geting your hands dirty
on your stats that you posted about the homegrown, I have a question for you! Why WEREN'T you producing the homegrown Jr High Kids when you were coaching all those years AT Clark Jr High??!!! You obviously did NOT do a good JOB a getting those Jr High Kids Ready for High School!! Now that you're not coaching Clark they seem to be getting better!!! Good JOB Chad Snapp!!
yes, Snap is a coaching prodigy! a jobless coaching prodigy, but nonetheless, a legend in his own mind, his mothers, and now yours too!! everyone knows that all the best coaches are the ones without jobs!!! just like in prison where everyone inside is innocent.
Jim Shields!!! Chad did not do Anything for those kids you mentioned!! the only one he focused on was Brandon Ferrera and he did nothing!! If you ask all the kids that chad snapp coached at Clark if they wanted to quit the would say "YES"!!! He made kids quit or want to go thing those parent were there for the ones that didn't!!!!
You sure got that right.
Yes, great coaches. Snapp did a great job with the kids at Firebaugh, then at Clark. He's coached a number of outstanding kids that are now wrestling Varsity at Clovis HS. Tyler Ceremello, Cameren Kelley, Ben Omata, Jonathan Gay, Ben Kelley, Vincent Rubio (Lemoore) Jeremy Simons, Alec Dieter, Tommy Burriel, Brandon Ferrera, Scott Sakaguchi, and Stephen Weimer just to name a few. If memory serves me right, those kids have been on very good teams, including the last State Championship team. When he wasa the assistant coach at Fresno City College, they won the California State JC title, and he was given the "Assistant Coach of the Year" award. Obviously he knows what he is doing. Jason Pearce has been a big contributer to several outstanding teams at BHS. That includes two 5th place teams, and 2nd and 3rd place teams. TRAC champs for 9 years, and 8 or 9 dual meet wins over rival CHS. That's what I can see through my foggy glasses. I do know who I can and can't trust. Why would you suggest differently? Why would it be nice for me to leave the area? Had enough of what? You are obviously a condescending bottom dweller with no dignity. If you feel like talking to me, my number is 327-1610
Chad will be the first to tell you that he was just lucky to have the opportunity to have been given the chance to work with those great kids. I think you have the "coatails" thing backwards.
There is a 99% chance that you really don't know me other than the possibility that we are minimally acquainted. That isn't much to judge anyone on is it? Is your middle name "Shallow"? BTW, do you disagree with thos "sobering" statistics or not?
"To bad you didn't find the statistics "Sobering", somethng you'd find Useful!!! BTW, you Tarnished your own name long ago!! Get back to your Hall Of Fame excoaches foxhole!!! i hear Snap is giving a Clinic and the Drinks are on the house :-)"
Chad is great at TELLING you what he's done. he's even better at taking credit for every kid whos ever put shoes on in his presence. you do have a lot in common!! in politics, they call it 'riding the coattails'. congrats on all your great coaching. LOL
on many occassions it's very common to see steve tirapelle adam and other coaches out having a social beer or two or three.What's funny is that these guys drink while they are on trips with kids to tournaments.
Yes, great coaches. Snapp did a great job with the kids at Firebaugh, then at Clark. He's coached a number of outstanding kids that are now wrestling Varsity at Clovis HS. Tyler Ceremello, Cameren Kelley, Ben Omata, Jonathan Gay, Ben Kelley, Vincent Rubio (Lemoore) Jeremy Simons, Alec Dieter, Tommy Burriel, Brandon Ferrera, Scott Sakaguchi, and Stephen Weimer just to name a few. If memory serves me right, those kids have been on very good teams, including the last State Championship team. When he wasa the assistant coach at Fresno City College, they won the California State JC title, and he was given the "Assistant Coach of the Year" award. Obviously he knows what he is doing. Jason Pearce has been a big contributer to several outstanding teams at BHS. That includes two 5th place teams, and 2nd and 3rd place teams. TRAC champs for 9 years, and 8 or 9 dual meet wins over rival CHS. That's what I can see through my foggy glasses. I do know who I can and can't trust. Why would you suggest differently? Why would it be nice for me to leave the area? Had enough of what? You are obviously a condescending bottom dweller with no dignity. If you feel like talking to me, my number is 327-1610.
To bad you didn't find the statistics "Sobering", somethng you'd find Useful!!! BTW, you Tarnished your own name long ago!! Get back to your Hall Of Fame excoaches foxhole!!! i hear Snap is giving a Clinic and the Drinks are on the house :-)
And exactly what did I lie about???? As far as the statistics are concerned I just read them this morning and as I said, I found them "enlightening". I also found no responses refuting them, so what's the big deal? Also remember, I had my name linked with three other people by some anonymous clown that obviously dislikes all of us. Probably you, but it doesn't really matter does it?
"j.shields, your a liar. you and your band of great coaches. chad snapp posted those statistics. you have time to do that when you have no coaching job...or gf, or friends, or life. sound familiar. you guys may get to share that foxhloe afterall"
j.shields, your a liar. you and your band of great coaches. chad snapp posted those statistics. you have time to do that when you have no coaching job...or gf, or friends, or life. sound familiar. you guys may get to share that foxhloe afterall.
Wake up Shields, you seem to have lost your mind. Snapp & Pearce great coaches? Wow, I would have thought more from someone who has a great history in wrestling at the highest level. I guess your glasses are slightly fogged up! Sad you could think they are people you could trust. It will be nice when you leave this area. I believe we have had enough! Perhaps you could take Snapp with you and then all three of you would be out of CUSD. Wishful thinking!
I just got a phone call alerting me that my name was recently put on this website. Somebody calling themselves NICE MATH is giving me credit for posting statistics. I did take a statistics class when I was working on a Masters degree, but I barely survived it with a C. No, I did not publish those statistics, but I do find them enlightening. I also want to thank nice math for putting me in the company of two of the best wrestling coaches that I know. Chad Snapp and Jason Pearce are not only great coaches, but they are also great guys. They are the kind of guys that you can trust and depend on. The kind of guys that you would want to share a foxhole with if you were in a war zone. I don't know who knuckleup is, but he has also been put in good company.
what is wrong with all of people? you people are so jeolous of chs winning the state. they are super wrestling team plus they have the best coaches!!!!!!!!!!!
clovis is embarassing the whole Valley. they should stay positive. like positive for cheating when ever they absolutely have to, like every year. make them Wrestle.
Some of the Clovis people are really embarrassing us. Please stop with the bragging and cussing. Just ignore the people that bother you. Stay positive, not negative.
I suppose that I should scroll down and read all of the posts, but I was referring to the most recent posts calling people dumbas and idiots. The excessive bragging is also irking.
Whoever pointed out that Pearce was at Disneyland was just explaining why he was not the person making posts. That is not necessarily a defense of him, but a statement of fact that basically eliminated him as your target of accusations. The language and hateful comments on this forum is becoming apalling. It seems to be one sided as well. I am speaking of the CHS posters. People don't care for that kind of dialogue. Doc Buchanan always espoused humbleness as an attribute in sports, I don't see that as the case at the moment. I see low class comments way too often.
Be a humble champion?? Are you freakin' kidding me? CHS is getting attacked at every turn on here. And you blame them for getting defensive?? After all this crap, screw humble. And screw you all. CHS is made up of a bunch of great, hard working kids who have absolutely no control over how the adults around them conduct themselves. How about we stop bashing their accomplishment and get behind THE KIDS! Congrats to the Clovis High boys, no matter where you came from, you worked hard, came together as a team and acheived your goal. And the beauty of it is that none of these jerks can take that from you.
A Dumba$$. I never said he went all the way to disneyland to get on a computer. You said "he was at Disneyland" as a defense for Pearce. I stated they have computers at disneyland....DUMBA$$. Another DUMBA$$ statement from a complete idiot.
All you Clovis High morons just need to accept you've been outed. Clovis high is mostly transfers and recruits. You can blame everybody in the Central Valley for putting it out there, but the facts don't lie, they came from your own website. If you want to play the game the way you do, then be man enough to admit it when you get caught.
The immortal Rodney King asked that famous question a long time ago. Apparently the answer is still NO. Feathers are just too easily ruffled, causing the bird poop flies.
A question for the math man. Is this wrong? If it is, show us where it is messed up? >>>>
28 Medals: 20T - 8C; 71% Transfers / 29% Clovis
***Apply the three medals on an enter-district transfer to Clovis: 17T - 11C; 61% Transfer / 39% Clovis
The greatest contributing factor to an outward appearance of success is Multiple State Place Winners. In these years: 8 Multiple SPW; 7T - 1C; 87% Transfer / 13% Clovis: 17 Medals; 88% Transfers / 12% Clovis
"Follower, keep your mouth closed, you keep on putting your too sense all the time, keep yourself in washinton union, and stay away from the big dogs, you don;t even belong here at all. "
Why are you posters getting upset and defensive? I've seen nothing about some of these posts regarding statistics to be overly concerned about. Hey, it is what it is. Clovis has a great program, period.
From 1998-2001 (%u201998 was coach T%u2019s first season):
12 state medals %u2013 4 years (3 medals/year)
12 %u201Cclovis%u201D medals
*i tend to label the coach's son a "homegrown" medal
From 2002-2008:
31 state medals %u2013 7 years (4.4 medals/year)
14 %u201Cclovis%u201D medals
7 moved after Jr high
6 moved after attending another hs (4 were hs in clovis unified)
4 moved after being state contestants
verdict = lots of success no matter how you slice it...Snapp
Follower, keep your mouth closed, you keep on putting your too sense all the time, keep yourself in washinton union, and stay away from the big dogs, you don;t even belong here at all.
My father was born in Italy and my mom in Kansas but lived in Clovis our whole life....That makes us transfers also!! How many born and raised athletes our on your home team!! probably none!!!!
of those transfers were alraedy state caliber qualifiers before Clovis got them?? Gabe,Jason.......These are only part of the #s. how far back do you go...Does someone moving in at 2nd grade qualify as a transfer?? not enough math......yet.... sorry than we will go through Buchannan,CW,CE and Selma rosters!!!! See how many transfers they have.....wait Cook,Bogers,Arredondo,Cisneros,Skinner,Flores...would Buchanan have won state without Boger or Flores??? NO!!!!!! the list goes on and on.
28 Medals: 20T - 8C; 71% Transfers / 29% Clovis
***Apply the three medals on an enter-district transfer to Clovis: 17T - 11C; 61% Transfer / 39% Clovis
The greatest contributing factor to an outward appearance of success is Multiple State Place Winners. In these years: 8 Multiple SPW; 7T - 1C; 87% Transfer / 13% Clovis: 17 Medals; 88% Transfers / 12% Clovis
These are not distorted numbers. YOU BE THE JUDGE!
This is a breakdown of Coach T's Move-In & Transfer vs. Home Grown State place winners over the last seven seasons. You can view the individual student athletes at http://www.cloviswrestling.com
For this analysis the Coach's son is excluded. Technically he is a transfer, but is a justified transfer. Analysis Excludes Tirapelle:
SPW=State Place Winners T=Transfer-Move In C=Clovis-Home Grown
2002: 2 SPW; 2T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2003: 6 SPW; 5T - 1C; 83% Transfer / 17% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Boundary Change
2004: 3 SPW; 3T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2005: 1 SPW; 1T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2006: 4 SPW; 2T - 2C; 50% Transfer / 50% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2007: 5 SPW; 3T - 2C; 60% Transfer / 40% Clovis
2008: 7 SPW; 4T - 3C; 57% Transfer / 43% Clovis
you could put LOSERS on your teams singlets, but than you already know that!!!!! I would not want to spend money putting names on singlets for a bunch of losers.............
Clovis High having open try outs for next seasons winning team. Come be part of something special, we welcome all wrestlers. Call Steve Tirapelle and ask how you can get a job in the school district so no one suspects anything.
How many wrestlers have left Clovis High to go to another program? It seems everyone wants to get to Clovis? Everyone on the outside that slams Clovis has no clue what it is like on the inside! They have turned the Jr High program around in 2 years and will continue to see good kids continue to feed in. It's not rocket science guys, the work ethics of these kids and coaches is key. They seem to have the ability to turn average kids into good kids. The kids just seem to buy into the Tirapelle System. Good luck to all these boys in 09.
Cry me a river! You people are a bunch of HATERS >_<
Just because we stand alone with the most state championships.
O ya we dont recruit if people transfer then they transfer.... i didnt see you guys complaining when arredondo and the bogers moved into BHS
Deliddo and Balch are the true legends of CHS Wrestling. The rest are following their footsteps. Reinstate FSU Wrestling!!! Reinstate Head Coach Balch CHS Wrestling!!!
and when did I become short, overweight and an under achiever? I must've missed something. Average acheiver? Sure. I don't think 6' 1" is short, and I've never seen a fat day.
Stilldon'tknow, we've been trying to figure that out for years. Clovis Unified will do anything to keep themselves from looking bad. Cover ups happen often. No coach is dumb enough to use money from the budget to wine and dine a parent. Or to help them rent a house. If everyone who knows something would come forward, people would be shocked at the crap these Clovis coaches have gotten away with for years. It's district wide, not just concentrated to Clovis High.
Balch is in talks to take over full control at clovis details and signing bonus are in the works, sources close to the deal say the school was tired of being embarassed by Steve
For years we have followed and admired Clovis wrestling. Without a doubt, your program is the best in the state and one of the best in the nation. No one is able to match the feeder program your community has placed together. Selma, on the other hand, is a small but proud community. All we want is to compete against the best. At this time, Clovis would be our best competition. It's a shame that Clovis has decided to bann Selma from their tournaments? The reasons given for this action are nothing more than excuses. This would only hurt the level and quality of competition at these events. Doesn't Clovis pride itself in promoting quality tournaments? This also deprives the fans from Clovis, and the state, the opportunity to view the best local competition.
he has so much power because he wears blue and gold and wears a funny clown suit and white hat.many people have asked the same question why not just fire the almighty ?
Anyone, even a short, over-weight, under achiever like yourself has the right to an opionion. That's what make this forum great. Those who hate can express themelves with NO FACTS or CREDENTIALS to back-up their allegations.
What is funny about all of this is the fact that when Balch ran things at clovis hs he produced state championship teams and certainly never had everyone crying about the success his teams were having in fact Balch was the real Class of Clovis !
steve walks on water in clovis he is jus like "Jesus" he can do no wrong and when he does everyone looks the other way like it never happend.
However Zimmer was fried and BBQ'D for far less than what steve has done
We believe that the almighty "Aflacs" determination for not wanting "Selma" was the fact that Hussein pointed out he steve was cheater and called him out and on a few occasions told steve to get off the mat when selma was wrestling his clovis boys.Hussein was tired of steve and his antics and stepped up and called him a cheater.Steve has used his almighty Clovis rules authority to tell slap other programs with threats of not being inviited to the Doc b in the future.Many cow down to steve and have succumed to his threats however not selma he said steve you are a cheater!
I didnt know that tirapeli had so much power. sounds like he runs the universe? why does that happen? if clovis did win all the tournamnts they entered in this year, why does everyone say that the clovis tourney was the only one fixed? does he have poewer over whole state? just don't understand someone must know.right?
what is your basis for not wanting competition at the clovis invitational? who made you the judge, jury and executioner for the City of Clovis. did you ever think the entire citizens of Clovis may want to see all of the best wrestlers from the Valley compete. if mr. steve tirapele does not allow Selma in he will be commiting an act of discrimination!
if steve was x'd out of the equation and some party who was 100% neutral ran the pairing and tourney lineup the clovis wrestlers themselves would be fine with that and most probably are wishing for a miracle that "aflac" would move on down the road and pick up a job at dinuba as an assistant and he would be ok with that because they have a great tournament that steve reccomends everyone to come to
ask hussein , he will tell you uncle steve asked zimmer to ban together to show their weakness in wrestling and zimmer will have responded ya he too was told that if he lets selma in that he would be crushed by the men withthe il white hats and clown suits
the clovis pussycats can't hide at Valley. they have no power or control there. they can't say or do anything about who gets invited there. and those are the real tournaments everyone remembers forever!
I understood it was all of Clovis that was not inviting Selma into their tournaments. Was this wrong? Is it only Clovis High ? What about the CW Shoot Out? didn't they attend that tournament last year? does anyone know?
Coach Tirapelle,
You cant keep selma down, do you believe that keeping selma out of your own tournament the Doc B which you also are at the controls with for seeding and do your work to insure a clovis team win will be satisfying ? when the small selma school and everyone around will be saying well selma might have won this tournament I just wonder if the coach Tirapelle was not such a their could've been a possibility selma would've showed everyone
just curious if anyone checks the expense account prior to the seasons and if their is any accountability for the wining and dining of recruits parents.Someone should be reviewinmg the receipts to keep track of all the cash spent
All Selma has to do is walk into the Clovis tournaments and weigh in. Of course they will be told that they were not invited. Selma just has to respond with, "Hey we are highly ranked studs from Selma, you have to let us in." It sounds arrogant, but it has worked for other teams in the past.
Yeah how many hours are put into wining and dining your recruits and their parents? And cheating is easy, just weigh your wrestlers in on the wrong mode on the Tanita scale. But Clovis has never done that huh? Give it up, you're living in a glass house and your throwing rocks at everyone.
Ya we had to cheat to win Doc B... thats it... just like we had to cheat to win every other tournament we sent our starters to...you guys are a joke. Also pure numbers doesnt win a State tittle, im pretty sure we have put in hours upon hours of time to win State this year.
Hot off the press
McAlester brokered in trade with selma McAlester will be making full family move according to inside sources
Sources say that someone close to the situation did not like the idea of him sitting out a season because of the newly recruited stud to the lineup at clovis
Guess what creampuff, nobody needs your permission to have an opinion. I'm a grown assed man and even I think you guys are recruiting. Your missing the point everyone is tired of watching people move into your school district for whatever the reason is the state to AD. It's been allowed to run rampant in the Central section for years. Maybe the other teams coaching staff not being intact is a step in the right direction and more schools need to take that lead. Or maybe schools need to crack down on moves into there school district. Your missing the point of why people go to high school. It's to get an education and not for wrestling. So if you don't like the accusations stop walking and quacking like a duck.
Why do you think they are recruiting?? People keep saying but I have never heard or better yet seen any proof! What rules are broken or bent? You seem to know everything! If they are doing all this, why is this coaching staff still in tact when another schools coaching staff is not? Your missing the point why people move, it is to get better and be coached by some of the best in the State or would even say West Coast. Stop with the recruiting accusations unless you can back it up!
Why do you think they are recruiting?? People keep saying but I have never heard or better yet seen any proof! What rules are broken or bent? You seem to know everything! If they are doing all this, why is this coaching staff still in tact when another schools coaching staff is not? Your missing the point why people move, it is to get better and be coached by some of the best in the State or would even say West Coast. Stop with the recruiting accusations unless you can back it up!
they are the worst rule breakers and benders. even when they were losing it was bad. now they are a championship team and parents will take there kids to clovis just to be part of a champion team. when you add that to the kids they are recruiting thats what makes them the worst offenders
Hey.. thanks for spelling McAlester's name correctly!! I really do appreciate it!! You obviously know him.. most people spell his name wrong.. Just In.. Just an FYI.. we are here to stay!!! :) :) :)
putting all these posts on here about transfers might sound funny, but it doesn't stop the facts, clovis area schools all recruit. clovis high is the worst right now because they have the championship and lots of people want that kind of fame for there kids.
McAlester wont start next season ,we heard that he will be punished next season by the new recruit at that weight so the coaches agreed said he can go ahead and transfer to selma
who cares about the cook kid transferring to the senior majority leaders school this is all wasted breath about nothing.Wow you should see all the new transfers working out at cw right now and no one is aying a thing about those kids who are now in the room from other places.Who cares so what these coaches are gonna get paid either way.It's all about money and publicity if an exceptional athlete comes in the school gets it props and at the end of the day the school makes some money from another student who attends.These coaches with the exclusion of the all knowing senior master get paid peanuts to coach and work on slave wages "Why dont some of you parents shut up and and start writing some checks out to these poor underpaid coaches going into this summer the coaches are gonna be expected to develop your athlete and work for peanuts lets kick in some extra money now and pay up these coaches so they can afford to lend their time to make sure your kid can get a college scholarship thru wrestling.You do your job as a parent and start financially supporting these coaches , believe me they are not to proud to accept a check or two with some zeros on the end...
Quit complaining and start paying so we can all bear to deal with this non sense on the internet
Listen... The Cook family should be able to do what they think is best.. trust me I know!!..of course rules should always apply, the problem is there is NO set rules... A certain person will make up the rules as he goes !!.and tends to favor one school!! . very unfair.. When Rodriguez left because of Zimmer there were no accusations of being recruited was there?? When Cook leaves it's because he was recruited?? It will be a tough road for the Cook family if they decide to leave..very unfair.. it is a big committment to pick up and move to another school!... I know NOTHING about the Cook family but this will be a tough road.. worth it?? in my opinion.. he*l yea!!.. On the Zimmer note.. I feel very sorry for his family.. His wife is a absolute doll and the boys are great!!Please stop the bashing.. it not only affects Brad, it affects the whole family... just the right thing to do... and at the end of the day.. they are only kids.....we tend to make things bigger than it really is!!..settle down.. enjoy your kids... !!
I certainly did notice your well wishes to the Cook boy. I also noticed that you did not wish Coach Zimmer continued (in blue and gold colors?) success. You didn't mention that you would be praying for Coach Zimmer either. You did mention negative heresay about him though. I doubt that you personally know him. I don't think that is very Christian of you either.
I am so sorry if that's the way my post came acroos. That was certainly not my intent.
Coaches SHOULD be held accountable for what goes on with their team - including recruiting.
But i do believe kids and families should have the right to do what is best for them with in CIF rules. That means a whole house move. And those kids and families should not be persecuted for thier choices. This is a free country and these are public schools.
And please note my original post wishing him success NO MATTER WHAT COLOR HE IS WEARING. And that's exactly what i mean
Bless you: You just supported slamming Zim and at the same time indirectly promoted the transfer of a CW wrestler to another school. No, we should not all have the choice to transfer unless it is a full family moce. Chaos within the school districts would be the order of the day. It is also about what is best for your favorite school isn' it? You are not fooling us with your religious rightiousness, your agenda is clear. Use God and prayers to justify your support of tampering with other schools athletes. In my church, you would be branded a backslider.
Cook is a great kid, a great wrestler, from a great family. He deserves our respect on and off the mat. No matter what school he attends. And he and his family deserve the right to make a choice that works for them. Especially if they had to move, or even if their current program isn't working for them.
We should ALL have that choice!!!!
From what I'm hearing all over the place, not just here, I wouldn't want my kid anywhere near Zimmer.
It's about what's best for the kid.
God help you all if you find yourself in a similar predicament and people feel they can sit in judgement.
Here's praying Cook and his family make the decision that's best for him, and wishing him all the success in the world .... no matter what colors he is wearing!!!!!!!
Hello... the Clovis Foundation BBQ!!!... and just an FYI... if someone new joins our family... that is just how they are treated.... family! so if extra chairs are necessary.. we will have them!
will order boxing ring for the back yard and invite former coach shields over so him and steve can go at a friendly boxing match hey someone said party just thought a good party should've fireworks
I would completely agree.. and would add... Adam,, Ben.. Ralph....etc!!.. All class... Those of us in the Clovis Wrestling Family are so blessed!! Thank you for all you do for our boys!...
steve is the man you all jus dont know steve he is such a respectful considerate warm and kind person we believe steve will make the honor roll of nice people
I think in this case Cooties means the "Herpes Simplex Virus" that was reported in the newspaper. Due to the severity of the Clovis outbreak it is a genuine concern for parents, because that virus is also 4 life.
i hope their room and mat doesn't have the cooties anymore. Never mind the invites, please do not forget to sanitize completely all the time or no one will even want to attend next season.
Banning selma wow Steve is really cool pulling that off now he can atleast make sure he wins his own tournament the Doc B.Nasser cant call him a cheater to his face and ask steve to go by criteria rather than his own adjustments to win his own tourney
Hey dipsh!t. Stan was with the film crew and he's a alumni of Clovis hs. He's not on the staff but he's always welcome at Chs. Great wrestler. Great guy.
Yeah, that's Stan Green. Heard he helped out Selma this past season. They banned Selma from the Clovis tournaments, recruit athletes and coaches from there competition Schools. What's Next?
"hella" is a word we use in the bay, nor cal area. i doesnt make sense to most but it can be use in a lot of ways. sierra was saying it like clovis is really good. or you could also say "you goin to lunch?...im hella goin to lunch. Im not one to really explain but hella is hella sick
Clovis Practice
Shields was up all night drinking!
"too cla.ssy" u can't write a s s in a word (;
Coach Shields is too cly to do something like that, but Coach T probably wouldn't get caught out in public by himself either. hahahaha
ILOVECLOVIS posted about 11 hours ago.
Still running her BIG mouth.
btw , GOT EIGHT? WE DO!!
the best part of all this is you guys are consumed with clovis wrestling and will not admit it, so all you do is put the program and all who are involved with it down. I find this strange how this could make you feel better, but more power to you. too bad you can't get over clovis, but really how could you? 9 in 09 will be with or without you. keep working cougars.
Balch should be reinstated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New president, new coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw , GOT EIGHT? WE DO!!
the best part of all this is you guys are consumed with clovis wrestling and will not admit it, so all you do is put the program and all who are involved with it down. I find this strange how this could make you feel better, but more power to you. too bad you can't get over clovis, but really how could you? 9 in 09 will be with or without you. keep working cougars.
Pa wrestling is the tops in this country Chs and Bhs would like to think they
are something, but your coaches are hiding come on out we would love to whip your kids and let them leave the mats with mat burn from the experience
come on out to PA we would relish the opportunity to whoop your kids into an oblivion at any rotational.
the parents of Bhs and Chs on this forum are unappreciative idiots they cry about one another and its really funny to watch.
If mending fences is good, then Clovis will probably get to borrow more kids in the future. First McAlester goes over Clovis, I wonder who will follow him? Look for more move overs in the near future. (i wouldn't talk about this kid he's very nice)
by the way these are not my posts:
it is hard to be objective when your head is up someones fanny. just ask the clovis butsniffers
you are an idiot
say what you want about CT the school went on a nationwide search for the right guy and did its due dilligence and hired him.the guy has connections throughout the united states and could get a job anywhere tomorrow if needed
give me zimmer ill own that kid
its my hmo that their is to much unrest in the clovis west camp
It's a fact the cougars would get the whoop down in Pa or Ohio it's true the Tirapelles are scared to take their kids into hostile waters so they go other directions where they can lay a beating and avoid the battle.
To Set The Record Straight
This is a breakdown of Coach T's Move-In & Transfer vs. Home Grown State place winners over the last seven seasons. You can view the individual student athletes at http://www.cloviswrestling.com
For this analysis the Coach's son is excluded. Technically he is a transfer, but is a justified transfer. Analysis Excludes Tirapelle:
SPW=State Place Winners T=Transfer-Move In C=Clovis-Home Grown
2002: 2 SPW; 2T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2003: 6 SPW; 5T - 1C; 83% Transfer / 17% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Boundary Change
2004: 3 SPW; 3T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2005: 1 SPW; 1T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2006: 4 SPW; 2T - 2C; 50% Transfer / 50% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2007: 5 SPW; 3T - 2C; 60% Transfer / 40% Clovis
2008: 7 SPW; 4T - 3C; 57% Transfer / 43% Clovis
,and having to much fun,and who's watching the kids! Kids transfer and they do not do it on their own, so who is to blame I know its the Liberals those a$$holes have a had in everything! The funny thing is we all know most teams that are good have someone recruit for them be the parents or the kids themselves, just like we all know about redshirting, but these are wrestlings dirty little secrets and our sections will do little to curb these actions, so we go on business as usual, and we wonder why we are looked at as a second tear sport. We have to be better than those other big money sports when it comes to ETHICS and that is something that has been lacking in this thread ethics!
So: You are correct, the unofficial post's were to stir up the pot and bash the Clovis High Wrestling program.
The drinking comment was a hoot, since all of my friends and the people close to me know since I have had 2 heart attacks, that I can't drink more than one drink and I rarely do that. Now if you are talking about my college days then I am guilty as charged...lol
Finaly, I know not everyone is going to like me, that's the nature of the beast, does it bother me, sure on some level, but I am human. Please do not include my name on here, this is getting old, if you have something negative to say to me please contact me personaly at
Yes, great coaches. Snapp did a great job with the kids at Firebaugh, then at Clark. He's coached a number of outstanding kids that are now wrestling Varsity at Clovis HS. Tyler Ceremello, Cameren Kelley, Ben Omata, Jonathan Gay, Ben Kelley, Vincent Rubio (Lemoore) Jeremy Simons, Alec Dieter, Tommy Burriel, Brandon Ferrera, Scott Sakaguchi, and Stephen Weimer just to name a few. If memory serves me right, those kids have been on very good teams, including the last State Championship team. When he wasa the assistant coach at Fresno City College, they won the California State JC title, and he was given the "Assistant Coach of the Year" award. Obviously he knows what he is doing. Jason Pearce has been a big contributer to several outstanding teams at BHS. That includes two 5th place teams, and 2nd and 3rd place teams. TRAC champs for 9 years, and 8 or 9 dual meet wins over rival CHS. That's what I can see through my foggy glasses. I do know who I can and can't trust. Why would you suggest differently? Why would it be nice for me to leave the area? Had enough of what? You are obviously a condescending bottom dweller with no dignity. If you feel like talking to me, my number is 327-1610
"To bad you didn't find the statistics "Sobering", somethng you'd find Useful!!! BTW, you Tarnished your own name long ago!! Get back to your Hall Of Fame excoaches foxhole!!! i hear Snap is giving a Clinic and the Drinks are on the house :-)"
"j.shields, your a liar. you and your band of great coaches. chad snapp posted those statistics. you have time to do that when you have no coaching job...or gf, or friends, or life. sound familiar. you guys may get to share that foxhloe afterall"
You are calling CHS posters out with anti-CHS posts like:
You are the state champion RECRUITERS.
Which makes you the state champion CHUMPS
and
All you Clovis High morons just need to accept you've been outed
and
i call coach t. dadddddddy please oh please.
You all need to deal with it!
Which makes you the state champion CHUMPS
and you are NOT!!!!
Deal with it!!
28 Medals: 20T - 8C; 71% Transfers / 29% Clovis
***Apply the three medals on an enter-district transfer to Clovis: 17T - 11C; 61% Transfer / 39% Clovis
The greatest contributing factor to an outward appearance of success is Multiple State Place Winners. In these years: 8 Multiple SPW; 7T - 1C; 87% Transfer / 13% Clovis: 17 Medals; 88% Transfers / 12% Clovis
These are not distorted numbers.
Hey Knuckleup... two words.. SPELL CHECK!
12 state medals %u2013 4 years (3 medals/year)
12 %u201Cclovis%u201D medals
*i tend to label the coach's son a "homegrown" medal
From 2002-2008:
31 state medals %u2013 7 years (4.4 medals/year)
14 %u201Cclovis%u201D medals
7 moved after Jr high
6 moved after attending another hs (4 were hs in clovis unified)
4 moved after being state contestants
verdict = lots of success no matter how you slice it...Snapp
It looks like kids like wrestling for Clovis!
***Apply the three medals on an enter-district transfer to Clovis: 17T - 11C; 61% Transfer / 39% Clovis
The greatest contributing factor to an outward appearance of success is Multiple State Place Winners. In these years: 8 Multiple SPW; 7T - 1C; 87% Transfer / 13% Clovis: 17 Medals; 88% Transfers / 12% Clovis
These are not distorted numbers. YOU BE THE JUDGE!
This is a breakdown of Coach T's Move-In & Transfer vs. Home Grown State place winners over the last seven seasons. You can view the individual student athletes at http://www.cloviswrestling.com
For this analysis the Coach's son is excluded. Technically he is a transfer, but is a justified transfer. Analysis Excludes Tirapelle:
SPW=State Place Winners T=Transfer-Move In C=Clovis-Home Grown
2002: 2 SPW; 2T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2003: 6 SPW; 5T - 1C; 83% Transfer / 17% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Boundary Change
2004: 3 SPW; 3T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2005: 1 SPW; 1T - 0C; 100% Transfer / 0% Clovis
2006: 4 SPW; 2T - 2C; 50% Transfer / 50% Clovis ***One Transfer could be Considered Clovis, Residence Clovis East Area, Moved
2007: 5 SPW; 3T - 2C; 60% Transfer / 40% Clovis
2008: 7 SPW; 4T - 3C; 57% Transfer / 43% Clovis
Just because we stand alone with the most state championships.
O ya we dont recruit if people transfer then they transfer.... i didnt see you guys complaining when arredondo and the bogers moved into BHS
highly unlikely im guessing
However Zimmer was fried and BBQ'D for far less than what steve has done
You cant keep selma down, do you believe that keeping selma out of your own tournament the Doc B which you also are at the controls with for seeding and do your work to insure a clovis team win will be satisfying ? when the small selma school and everyone around will be saying well selma might have won this tournament I just wonder if the coach Tirapelle was not such a their could've been a possibility selma would've showed everyone
McAlester family seen in Selma looking for a rental and a new boyfriend.
McAlester family seen in Selma looking for a rental
hey you are wrong he wont be a back up McAlester was brokered in a trade to Selma
McAlester brokered in trade with selma McAlester will be making full family move according to inside sources
Sources say that someone close to the situation did not like the idea of him sitting out a season because of the newly recruited stud to the lineup at clovis
103 lbs will be filled with the boy from Quincy Ca "Cody Pack"
Quit complaining and start paying so we can all bear to deal with this non sense on the internet
Coaches SHOULD be held accountable for what goes on with their team - including recruiting.
But i do believe kids and families should have the right to do what is best for them with in CIF rules. That means a whole house move. And those kids and families should not be persecuted for thier choices. This is a free country and these are public schools.
And please note my original post wishing him success NO MATTER WHAT COLOR HE IS WEARING. And that's exactly what i mean
We should ALL have that choice!!!!
From what I'm hearing all over the place, not just here, I wouldn't want my kid anywhere near Zimmer.
It's about what's best for the kid.
God help you all if you find yourself in a similar predicament and people feel they can sit in judgement.
Here's praying Cook and his family make the decision that's best for him, and wishing him all the success in the world .... no matter what colors he is wearing!!!!!!!
112 _ Gayton
119 _ Gambrel
125 _ McAlester
130 _ Gay
135 _ Dieter
140 _ Cervantes
145 _ Kelly
152 _ Sagaguchi
160 _ Cook
173 _ Quiroz
189 _ Burriel
215 _ Daron Barbo
235 _ Devon Barbo
112 _ Gambrel
119 _ McAlester
125 _ Omata
130 _ Gay
135 _ Dieter
140 _ Cervantes
145 _ Kelly
152 _ Sagaguchi
160 _ Cook
173 _ Quiroz
189 _ Burriel
215 _ Daron Barbo
235 _ Devon Barbo