134lbs Cary Kolat vs. Mark Ironside - 1996 NWCA Allstar Classic

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College:Penn State University 1992-94 Lock Haven University 1995-97
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4 x PIAA State Champion Two-Time NCAA Champion (1996-97) Four Time NCAA All-American (1993,94,96,97) Eastern Wrestling champion (1996-97) PSAC Champion (1996,97) Big Ten Champion ('93) Big Ten Runner-Up…
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#59
Lancer   November 13 at 3:24pm
My God I like watching Kolat wrestle! It is a travesty how screwed he got on the International scene.
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#58
clarencelong4   November 12 at 5:10pm
Great match!
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#57
Jake I   November 12 at 3:01pm
Wow, thank you so much for posting this video. Hands down the most exciting match I ever witnessed. Carver-Hawkeye was absolutely deafening at the end of the match.
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#56
Anonymous Coward   November 5 at 4:19pm
Why do we have to wait all day for throwback thursdays! What else do you guys have to do that you can't post a match at a certain time every week
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#55
Barr   August 20 at 10:28am
if kolat was well conditioned like every iowa wrestler, he would have won
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#54
Lax   August 19 at 4:00pm
man ironside just melts kolat in the 3rd
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#53
Momentum Shifters   July 7 at 2:47pm
I think the ref's stalling call and kinda wimpy takedown played a part in kolat's breakdown. great match i was pullin for Cary the whole time but you know the third period is always Iowa's period.
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#52
Bq   June 29 at 10:57pm
that guy is a stud
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#51
Donald Carruth   June 28 at 8:02pm
Mike Cruickshank said:
Holy Smokes! Don Carruth. It has to have been over a decade? Last thing I heard you were a Police Officer in Middlesex County. Sorry if that is wrong, I can't even remember the grapevine I got that info out of.
mike shoot me an email >
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#50
Tyson Young   June 28 at 12:48pm
Great match. Gotta love that "Iowa Style!"
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#49
Tyler Furger   June 28 at 12:03am
i feel lik this match is on fast forward the whole time. these guys are quick
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#48
Mike Cruickshank   June 27 at 4:41pm
I made a mistake on my earlier post. I just checked wrestling stats website and ironside also lost to Kimble from Ohio in 1995 so his career record at NCAA's had 4 losses (St. John x 2, Kimble, Zinkin)
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#47
Mike Cruickshank   June 27 at 4:04pm
Donald Carruth said:
great match......kolat had eleven pins in 11 matchs and started off strong..... but ironside had many more matches (10 more) also which could translate to the bottomless tank plus the ever so present iowa style 3rd periods which made him finish strong ....whats up Cruickshank ...long time no see!! hahaha
Holy Smokes! Don Carruth. It has to have been over a decade? Last thing I heard you were a Police Officer in Middlesex County. Sorry if that is wrong, I can't even remember the grapevine I got that info out of.
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#46
Donald Carruth   June 27 at 3:49pm
great match......kolat had eleven pins in 11 matchs and started off strong..... but ironside had many more matches (10 more) also which could translate to the bottomless tank plus the ever so present iowa style 3rd periods which made him finish strong ....whats up Cruickshank ...long time no see!! hahaha
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#45
Mike Cruickshank   June 27 at 3:49pm
Doesn't matter said:
They both won 2 NCAA's, Ironside being more impressive in his 2 titles and 1-0 against Kolat in College...the Schultz thing is unfortunate but still a complete joke as an explanation for this meltdown.

Kolat wasn't ready for somebody to last a complete match w/ him at Ironside's pace at this point in the year...obviously, it must have motivated him to get in shape and win a title that year...
Doesn't Matter...Man, I think you need to take a "release" of some kind. You are way too angry and uptight for an internet wrestling thread.

However, you raise an interesting arguement about Kolat and Ironsides. I would argue that Kolat's college career and his NCAA titles were more impressive even though their win/loss records at NCAA's were very similar.
This is not to disparage Ironsides at all. He had an incredible career, well out of the universe of anything I ever accomplished. But as fans let's look at the data:
Ironsides NCAA: Redshirt, 6, 3, 1, 1
Kolat NCAA:2, 3, Redshirt, 1, 1
Kolat took 2nd in the country to a an eventual 3 time national champ as a true freshman. Ironsides managed a 6th as a redshirt freshman. That's a big difference. Kolat beat the defending national champ and two time finalist Troy Steiner in the semi's that year. I don't believe Ironsides ever defeated anybody at that level at nationals. His losses were to Steve St. John (twice) and to the kid from fresno, zinckin I believe.
Kolat's career NCAA record: 19-2 (11 superior victories). Kolat not only had an additional superior victory his only losses came to a two time finalist (Mohammedi who lost to Jaworsky both times) and a 3 time champ (Jaworsky).
Ironsides: 19-3 (10 of his wins were "superior victories i.e. fall, major, tech)
While they are both incredible careers and close in some respects I think the stats clearly prove that Kolat's career at NCAA's was much more impressive.
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#44
Doesn't Matter   June 26 at 7:27pm
Mike Cruickshank said:
Hi Twilly,
I think you have to remember a couple of things here before thinking Kolat broke mentally. From a physiological point of view, once your energy system breaks down that's it. It doesn't matter how much you want it, you are done. Thats it.
Kolat hadn't even been remotely pushed by that point that year. For a guy who was famous for his own motor, this could go a long way toward explaining what happened here. I onced witnessed Kolat maxing out an old school stairmaster for an hour straight at the new jersey freestyle state championships. His conditioning was stunning.
This is not to make excuses for Kolat since Ironsides wrestled a really tough match.
Also Kolat was very close to Dave Schultz from what I understand and if I remember correctly this match went down not too long after Schultz's murder. So from a psych point of view maybe there is something there.
People also have to remember that Kolat, not ironsides, won nationals that year. Kolat won a somewhat close but very controlled victory over St. John from Arizona St. who was 2-0 against Ironsides that year.
They both won 2 NCAA's, Ironside being more impressive in his 2 titles and 1-0 against Kolat in College...the Schultz thing is unfortunate but still a complete joke as an explanation for this meltdown.

Kolat wasn't ready for somebody to last a complete match w/ him at Ironside's pace at this point in the year...obviously, it must have motivated him to get in shape and win a title that year...
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#43
WatWest00   June 26 at 7:23pm
I have this match, along with the Guerrero vs. Schwab, Schwab vs. Hinson -- make 'em quit matches. Hit me up @ , and I'll see what I can do fellas (I'm in the process of converting my pretty impressive collection into DVD's, so give me some time).
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#42
Mike Cruickshank   June 26 at 12:07pm
twilly said:
Mike, I agree with you. I maybe didn't explain it very eloquently. I didn't mean to suggest that Kolat was weak minded, I was just making a point, that every elite level athlete quits. They all push themselves to a point where the body is done. We just don't see it in matches very often, because they do it during training. I totally agree that Kolat, simply didn't have the training at that point in the season to hold up in that match. Beings that he almost won anyway, show how great a wrestler he is.
Hi Twilly,

No worries. I didn't want to make it seem like I was challenging you. I was just offering my perspective on things.
Kolat really is amazing. Sometimes people forget that he was a couple of really crappy, unfair calls away from being a multiple time world and olympic champ. And Ironsides was really devestating with that front headlock. He was able to turn a defensive move into a highly functional short offense.
It really is a blessing to watch guys like this go at it on the mat. It really reminds me of the old school matches where guys just went nuts trying to score points on one another. Some people claimed that the old school guys looked sloppy but they were not. They were just working under a different set of rules which really punished stalling. Guys like Kolat and Ironsides wrestled that way with nobody pushing them.
Really amazing.
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#41
Anonymous Coward   June 26 at 9:17am
CLASSIC !
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#40
Twilly   June 26 at 8:30am
Mike Cruickshank said:
Hi Twilly,
I think you have to remember a couple of things here before thinking Kolat broke mentally. From a physiological point of view, once your energy system breaks down that's it. It doesn't matter how much you want it, you are done. Thats it.
Kolat hadn't even been remotely pushed by that point that year. For a guy who was famous for his own motor, this could go a long way toward explaining what happened here. I onced witnessed Kolat maxing out an old school stairmaster for an hour straight at the new jersey freestyle state championships. His conditioning was stunning.
This is not to make excuses for Kolat since Ironsides wrestled a really tough match.
Also Kolat was very close to Dave Schultz from what I understand and if I remember correctly this match went down not too long after Schultz's murder. So from a psych point of view maybe there is something there.
People also have to remember that Kolat, not ironsides, won nationals that year. Kolat won a somewhat close but very controlled victory over St. John from Arizona St. who was 2-0 against Ironsides that year.
Mike, I agree with you. I maybe didn't explain it very eloquently. I didn't mean to suggest that Kolat was weak minded, I was just making a point, that every elite level athlete quits. They all push themselves to a point where the body is done. We just don't see it in matches very often, because they do it during training. I totally agree that Kolat, simply didn't have the training at that point in the season to hold up in that match. Beings that he almost won anyway, show how great a wrestler he is.
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#39
Adrian Anderson   June 26 at 8:10am
I can't believe that was 13 years ago. I feel a little dated.
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#38
Jay Jay   June 26 at 7:50am
old school wrestling. great to see americans try to score, and score, and score. no stalling from these two. i think the referees are part of the problem as of late because they allow good wrestlers to stall out matches and the good wrestlers never achieve their true greatness.
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#37
E J   June 26 at 2:01am
Mark Ironside is my favorite collegiate wrestler of all time. Unbelievable. He had a tank and solid technique.
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#36
Sad   June 25 at 11:48pm
What happened to this sport??
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#35
Mike Cruickshank   June 25 at 8:42pm
Joe Delia said:
Think of Donahoe vs NIckerson, this match is the exact opposite.
Very Funny...and very true!
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#34
Mike Cruickshank   June 25 at 8:41pm
twilly said:
From a sport psychology point of view, it is very interesting to see Kolat break in the last 20 seconds. There were still 20 some seconds left when he gave up that takedown, but he put his head down and was done. Most people think that the great ones don't break or quit, but they all do or did. Even the Ironsides', Brands', McIlravys' were broken at some point, its just that the common viewer never saw it in a match...it happened to them in practice. That is where the genius of Gable comes out. Just like Askren suggests in his "Gable Trained" blog.
Hi Twilly,
I think you have to remember a couple of things here before thinking Kolat broke mentally. From a physiological point of view, once your energy system breaks down that's it. It doesn't matter how much you want it, you are done. Thats it.
Kolat hadn't even been remotely pushed by that point that year. For a guy who was famous for his own motor, this could go a long way toward explaining what happened here. I onced witnessed Kolat maxing out an old school stairmaster for an hour straight at the new jersey freestyle state championships. His conditioning was stunning.
This is not to make excuses for Kolat since Ironsides wrestled a really tough match.
Also Kolat was very close to Dave Schultz from what I understand and if I remember correctly this match went down not too long after Schultz's murder. So from a psych point of view maybe there is something there.
People also have to remember that Kolat, not ironsides, won nationals that year. Kolat won a somewhat close but very controlled victory over St. John from Arizona St. who was 2-0 against Ironsides that year.
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#33
Just A Fan   June 25 at 8:12pm
I once saw a Kolat highlight video on here or youtube and it had the song, Seek and Destroy" by Metallica. It was awesome, does anyone know where that is? It would be greatly appreciated.
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#32
Kevin Gill   June 25 at 7:51pm
Cliff and Guru please post more Kolat matches on Flo. International or collegiate, always a pleasure to watch.
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#31
The Orignal Anyonymous Coward   June 25 at 6:23pm
Is anyone else besides me amazed at the size of Kolat at 134 pounds???!?! Look at those thighs !
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#30
PA Wrestling   June 25 at 6:04pm
This match reminds me of the Schwab vs. Guererro match. Do you have that in the archive?
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#29
Brandon Veasey   June 25 at 5:34pm
Kolat has kankles. I respect his build.

Nice video, now you are on Kendall Cross and Kolat's black list, good luck with that.
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#28
RD   June 25 at 2:52pm
Awesome, more college matches, love the announcing.
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#27
Ed The Doober   June 25 at 2:49pm
YES!!! Cliff, Flowrestling is forever in your debt.
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#26
Johann Gerlach   June 25 at 2:46pm
GURU!!! That's just incredible. What an unbelievable match. Down 6-2 to come back? Sensational.
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#25
Joe Delia   June 25 at 2:41pm
Think of Donahoe vs NIckerson, this match is the exact opposite.
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#24
D. Saternuts   June 25 at 2:17pm
I would not have went on the mat against those two without a baseball bat or gun. ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#23
Kdoug   June 25 at 1:45pm
Now that was a classic.
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#22
Zach Gerberick   June 25 at 1:39pm
Great Match! What a come-back. I have always enjoyed watching Kolat's matches throughout his highschool career to the international level. Nice Throwback Thrus!
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#21
Kevin Gill   June 25 at 1:28pm
137-0 in high school in PA wasn't too shabby either for Kolat.
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#20
Twilly   June 25 at 12:53pm
From a sport psychology point of view, it is very interesting to see Kolat break in the last 20 seconds. There were still 20 some seconds left when he gave up that takedown, but he put his head down and was done. Most people think that the great ones don't break or quit, but they all do or did. Even the Ironsides', Brands', McIlravys' were broken at some point, its just that the common viewer never saw it in a match...it happened to them in practice. That is where the genius of Gable comes out. Just like Askren suggests in his "Gable Trained" blog.
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#19
Old School Scoring...   June 25 at 12:46pm
Apparently, according to the rules back then, the last takedown was worth WAAAAAY more than two points! :)
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#18
Panda   June 25 at 12:20pm
njjjj said:
he took 2nd,3rd,1st,1st at nationals. the description saying "Kolat had transferred from Penn State the previous year not placing at the NCAA tournament to Lock haven." is misleading. He didnt place because 1995 was his redshirt year. he was still a 4x AA 4x top 3 finisher 3x finalist and 2x champ.
Actually if you read it is does say that he red shirted and sat out of the NCAA tournament the previous year not that he didn't place. Although is does sound misleading and I thought the same thing the first time I read it.
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#17
Backbreaker   June 25 at 12:19pm
i have seen four of kolat's matches and he seems to always get tired
by the third period in close matches.
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#16
Snapdown   June 25 at 12:03pm
i would like to see the 1979 134lb ncaa div. 1 championship.
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#15
Anonymous Coward   June 25 at 11:41am
they didn't show ironsides td!!!!
wtf!!!!
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#14
Anonymous Coward   June 25 at 11:32am
can you show us their ncaa finals matches, please
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#13
Mrwrestler87   June 25 at 10:45am
great wrestling...
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#12
Marty Bartram   June 25 at 10:33am
Love the crowd at the last takedown, gave me chills.
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#11
Marty Bartram   June 25 at 10:30am
I need to buy a case of those rubber knees!
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#10
  June 25 at 10:16am
That was crazy how Ironside cam back to win 92-8! sick!
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#9
Mark Bader   June 25 at 10:03am
My bad Cliff, sometimes I get too wrapped up in the Pure-world, sorry about that... good work Fretty and I love the flash headline
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#8
1lbover   June 25 at 9:54am
It's amazing how often Kolat uses the rubber knee to get out of takedowns..i dont' think i've seen a match of his where he didn't use it
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Njjjj   June 25 at 9:38am
he took 2nd,3rd,1st,1st at nationals. the description saying "Kolat had transferred from Penn State the previous year not placing at the NCAA tournament to Lock haven." is misleading. He didnt place because 1995 was his redshirt year. he was still a 4x AA 4x top 3 finisher 3x finalist and 2x champ.
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#6
BADER   June 25 at 9:34am
ITS THROWBACK THURSDAY DOG!
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#5
Cliff Fretwell   June 25 at 8:16am
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BADER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not the Guru com'on man, I'm trying so hard to be my own man and you lump me in with Vatigliano?
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#4
Joe O   June 25 at 8:15am
Great display of conditioning as a superior technique. Kolat is an overpowering wrestler, but Ironside kept on climbing the mountain until he reached the peak. And that was superior entertainment, just a joy to watch. Great match selection.
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#3
Mark Bader   June 25 at 7:29am
awesome match, can't believe i never saw that one before... thanks guru!
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#2
Wow   June 25 at 7:15am
that match was the
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#1
TJ X   June 24 at 5:06pm
GREAT collegiate match! Classic lesson in how conditioning and in-match adjustments can make the difference!
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Throwback Thursdays

134lbs Cary Kolat vs. Mark Ironside - 1996 NWCA Allstar Classic

Mark Ironside 2 time NCAA champ 4 time BigTen Champ was, coming off a 6th place finish the previous year. Kolat transferred from Penn State to Lock Haven the previous year and sat out of the NCAA tournament as a Red Shirt year. Kolat went on to win the NCAA title this year beating St. John from AZ State 5-2 with Ironside getting 3rd. They both won NCAA titles in 1997, Ironside at 134lbs and Kolat up at 142lbs.
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Level:  college
Weight Class:  134

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