Strngth and conditioning coach at Kent State University.
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Jeff Pontier April 1 at 3:54am
I like this guy. He is obviously a strength coach and not a wrestler but he took the time and put in the effort to know what a wrestler needs. He couldn't attack the legs to save his life but he knows exactly what muscles it takes and how to build those muscles up. Too many strength coaches cater to football programs instead of the entire athletic program.
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cd - there is a lot of different theories out there...but the summary based on your question would be a combination of both...
weightlifting with sets of 3-5 reps will help build power, where weightlifting or body workouts with higher reps (10 and more) will help build muscle endurance...
ropes, pull ups, that sort of thing - those are GREAT exercises that cannot really be duplicated in the weight room...
so on some days, do the heavy reps, and other days do the higher reps...hope that helps...
I trained with Westiside Barbell the summer and fall before my senior year of high school, and I developed so much strength and explosion from Box Squats. The emphasis on explosion definitely helped me finish my high crotches and escaping from bottom.
I still would recommend the type of circuit training shown here complete with Cleans and Deadlifts.
what is better for strength?
bidy work outs like dips, pushups, pullups climbing rope, etc...or lifting heavy weights?
it might sound dumb but i dont have a lot of knowledge in this area
To answer "cd", it has been my understanding that the more muscle you have the more fat you can burn. This is extremely helpful in the pre-season in terms of "beating" the hydration test. As for lifting during the season and weight-loss, I can only see the workouts that Bob has shown as an alternative way to lose those last few pounds other than wrestling; in addition to keeping up that muscular endurance which is so key to the sport.
I liked what I saw on these videos and will be using various parts to incorporate into our wrestlers and football players routines.
rileyross- People like Mr. X like to get a rise out of people or they are jealous of Mr. Lemieux for his dedication to the sport. Bob is a great dude and loves training wrestlers. I attended Kent with Bob and I think he does a tremendous job with those wrestlers. I had to take a minute to calm down before I posted. As for lifting during season I feel it is a key to success. The wrestlers should not just keep strength but get stronger during the season. Thanks Bob, see you at the MAC tournament.
i have a question...
why is it that all these colleges lif weights a few times a week and most high schoolers never lift a weight during the season?
and does it affect cutting weight and stuff like that?
Tremendous video Mr. Lemieux and Flodaddy. Thanks for providing some good guidelines for wrestlers to get faster, stronger, and tougher. Keep up the good work!
William_x: What is your area of expertise? Instead of bashing some guy who works with wrestlers and has for six years, why don't you contribute something!
If you "listened" to Mr. Lemieux, he said the purpose was to increase "lactate threshold". That means hard work, and trying to work harder. This modality is an excellent circuit for experienced elite athletes. It uses full range of motion using sports specific exercises.
Have you done this at the recommended 70%-80% of your bodyweight? Were the squat and deadlift easy for you? I highly doubt it!
Furthermore, Louie Simmons is an expert at training powerlifters, not wrestlers. There is a huge difference. Powerlifters could never do what wrestlers do, so don't recommend that people should read things that don't apply.
What does "frying" the shoulders mean? That your shoulders are burning because you are trying to increase lactate threshold? Does the word "fry" induce something that we have never heard about, because that is not a term that I have heard in relation to strength and conditioning.
William_x, I highly recommend you think about what you're posting before you do, and for others reading and watching this, don't say anything until you've tried it. Don't email this guy.
I'm pretty sure Bob knows what he is doing. I have done workouts that are really close to this. If you don't do this every day it won't "fry" the shoulders. Everyday...sure. I may contact you anyway because I'm always looking for more things to use with my team. Thanks for the Louie Simmons reference.
This guy really needs to read some of the articles by Louie Simmons! This is a typical University lack of real world lifting program! For example that 5x5 circuit. It will be either too light or too heavy for the exercise being attempted. A weight you could press or clean, would not represent a challenging weight you would Front Squat or Deadlift. Also his program will "fry" the wrestlers shoulders. If anyone would like to contact me they may at
Preseason training
Phew! Good thing this D1 strength coach has you to tell him the error of his ways!
Hopefully he will listen to you and not fry any more shoulders!
Sup Barry :()
weightlifting with sets of 3-5 reps will help build power, where weightlifting or body workouts with higher reps (10 and more) will help build muscle endurance...
ropes, pull ups, that sort of thing - those are GREAT exercises that cannot really be duplicated in the weight room...
so on some days, do the heavy reps, and other days do the higher reps...hope that helps...
uhhhh, no...
I still would recommend the type of circuit training shown here complete with Cleans and Deadlifts.
bidy work outs like dips, pushups, pullups climbing rope, etc...or lifting heavy weights?
it might sound dumb but i dont have a lot of knowledge in this area
I liked what I saw on these videos and will be using various parts to incorporate into our wrestlers and football players routines.
why is it that all these colleges lif weights a few times a week and most high schoolers never lift a weight during the season?
and does it affect cutting weight and stuff like that?
If you "listened" to Mr. Lemieux, he said the purpose was to increase "lactate threshold". That means hard work, and trying to work harder. This modality is an excellent circuit for experienced elite athletes. It uses full range of motion using sports specific exercises.
Have you done this at the recommended 70%-80% of your bodyweight? Were the squat and deadlift easy for you? I highly doubt it!
Furthermore, Louie Simmons is an expert at training powerlifters, not wrestlers. There is a huge difference. Powerlifters could never do what wrestlers do, so don't recommend that people should read things that don't apply.
What does "frying" the shoulders mean? That your shoulders are burning because you are trying to increase lactate threshold? Does the word "fry" induce something that we have never heard about, because that is not a term that I have heard in relation to strength and conditioning.
William_x, I highly recommend you think about what you're posting before you do, and for others reading and watching this, don't say anything until you've tried it. Don't email this guy.