Long Island Challenge

Guy's it was Great to see all these Names once again and also to go back in time to rememeber them Wrestling..I still think my High School Team of the 70's is the best in the Country in any Era..Thats my opinion..Some Great Wrestlers on everyone list,I hope u enjoyed this post,B/C I did..Thank's

Who's the goof ball with the dumb smirk on his face?

Oklahoma wrestling is where it is at. This state is rich in tradion. This team I put together has (18) national champions, (7) runnerups and a total of (36) all americans with just these ten wrestlers. Everyone on this team was in the finals at least 1 time and all but 1 has at least 1 championship. To show that as a state we premote wrestiling all the way through thier careers they all stayed in state to wrestle in college also. This team also produced (4) gold medals, (1) silver, (1) 4th, (1) 6th at the olympic level. This is just a short list and I can't tell you how many all americans and champions that did not make the list .

118 Rex Peery 3x Ncaa champion
126 Kendal Cross 3x all american 6-1-3 olympic gold medal and 6th
134 John Smith 3x all american 2-1-1 olympic (2) gold medals
142 Leroy Bailey 3x all american 5-4-1
150 Kenny Monday 3x all american 2-2-1 olympic gold, silver and 4th
158 Pat Smith !st ever 4x champion in ncca history
167 Mark Branch 4x all american 1-2-2-1
177 Tyron Lewis 4x all american 5-3-5-2
190 J.J. McGrew 2x all american 1-7
HWT Richard Hutton 4x all american 1-1-2-1

Rick,
The 11 were from District 7 as I also graduated from that district in 1995 so I personally knew or know many of these wrestlers. Also, including myself and many in the district and in my high school,Canon McMillan, at that time, were truly not focused enough on our school work. Alot of wrestlers ended up in D2 and D3 and even many great athletic wrestlers including state champs ended up sadly to say doing absolutely nothing with their talent that God had given them. I have gotten into coaching almost mainly because of this, I stress academics in my program as much as technique and work ethic because without all three you cannot become a complete wrestler that makes the most out of a career. Out of our district we have brought home about 7 or so D2 National titles during this same time era. I recognize you as a respectful person and a good advocate of this sport. Take care.

wow. thats pretty impressive if all those guys were from the same conference. Shore Conference in NJ has emerged to be a national power and recruiting hotbed, but the problem with many of the guys is that they go D2 or D3 because their grades or scores werent good enough for a D1 school, and in reality, the same guys then have a history of also tearing up D3 pretty good. I wont go into the debate of D1 v. D3 here though.
It would be cool to see how much even better some of the shore guys would do if some of them would have been more committed to school in hs, and decided to go on to bigger schools for more national exposure at D1.

Im sure that D7 over there probably sees the same image though with your guys

How about THIS:

11 of the PA HS Team from 1990 - 2000 are from one conference, the WPIAL, District 7. If I were to compile a team of all time from District 7 it would probably be way more accredited than any district or conference in the country.
Also, Kurt Angle graduated before 1990 or else he would be on the list...
Thanks for the support!

How about THIS:

Name me a better line up of high school guys from the SAME CONFERENCE. The Shore Conference in New Jersey has put out some serious contenders. Going by the whole state, NJ/PA/OH/IL/CA/IA/MN are generally comparable.
But by a single high school CONFERENCE, try this on for size: (Im skethy on each weight class specifically and where they did college, etc., but they are still a tough one to beat, considering they are all from the SAME CONFERENCE
Clendenin
Luke & Jude Skove
Glen Pritzloff
Doug Parise
Frank Edgar
Worthy
Frank Molinaro (3x Champ; Penn. St redshirt)
All of the Roy Brothers
Bryan Stout (4xAA at Clarion)
Winston (4x st. champ, #1 ranked nationally in hs; yet to see in college...)
Damion Hahn
Kevin Hoy

I would definately make Kurt Angle the HWT for PA's team.

These are some great wrestlers but PA has some serious talent. Look at the two PA hs line ups. The one listed below is pretty sick. Most of them were NCAA champs. Not sure anyone can beat a lineup of nearly all NCAA champs and most of the rest multiple AA's. Hunter, Moore, Angle, Kolat, Hughes, Jones, Letters, Trenge....

PA HS 10 YR SPAN 1990 - 2000:
103 - JEREMY HUNTER 4X PIAA, 171 - 2, NCAA CHAMP
112 - BOB CRAWFORD 4X PIAA, 138 - 2 / JUSTIN SPATES 2X PIAA
119 - TEAGUE MOORE 1X PIAA, 140 - 9 - 1,NCAA CHAMP
/TY MOORE 4X PIAA, 146 - 1
125 - CARY KOLAT 4X PIAA, 137 - 0, NCAA CHAMP
/MARK ANGLE 1X PIAA 148 - 3
130 - JAMAR BILLMAN 2X PIAA,141 - 17
/TOM TOMEO 2X PIAA, 143 - 8
135 - RUSS HUGHES 3X PIAA, 140 -6
/BRYAN SNYDER 1XPIAA
140 - JOHN HUGHES 4X PIAA, 142 -2 -1, NCAA CHAMP
145 - MIKE SHINGARA 3X PIAA, 138 - 4
/JEFF CATRABONE 2X PIAA, 146 - 12
152 - TROY LETTERS 2X PIAA,146 - 4, NCAA CHAMP
160 - GREG JONES 2X PIAA,NCAA CHAMP
/ROB WALLER 1X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP
/RAY BRINZER 3X PIAA, 143 -5-1
171 - VERTUS JONES, 1X PIAA, 144 -11 -1
189 - ROB ROHN, 1X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP
/JON TRENGE 2X PIAA, 145 - 15
HW - JEFF WALTER 2X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP

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Just like every damn NYer, y as hell but can't do a damn thing against the Central States of Iowa and Oklahoma.

Also forgot to mention not being able to add Olympians Oscar Wood and Anthony Amado to the OR list.

I still stand by the Iowa team being the best ever.

I put an OR team together. Something that's interesting though is that almost all of my OR picks, not only wrestled in HS in OR, but wrestled in college in OR. They didn't need to leave the state to get it done. With the exception of two wrestlers in Larry Owings and Bobby Janisse. Had to leave a few greats off the list like Glen Garrison, Matt Lindland, Joe Russell, Shane Webster, Howard Harris, Larry Beilenberg, Greg Gibson, John Miller, Travis West and Broderick Lee and Roger Weigel.
Oregon
118-Rick Sanders-3 time D2 Champ, 2-time D1 champ and 3 time finalist, Olympian
126-Bobby Janisse-Wrestled for ASU until he died.
134-Robin Reed-Probably greatest wrestler of all time
142-Dan Hicks-2 time NCAA Champ, Wrestler of the Decade at his weight
150-Larry Owings-NCAA Champ, 3 time finalist
158-Dan Russell-4 time D2 Champ, multiple AA in D1, World medalist
167-Dan Conway-NCAA Champ
177-Les Gutches-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
190-Greg Strobel-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
HWT-Jess Lewis-2 time NCAA Champ

Here is a California College Team not in a 10 year span. I thiink the 10 year span was only for the High School team.

118: Adam Cuestas (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
126: Stephen Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Champ
134: Eric Guerrero (Oklahoma State) - 3x NCAA Champ
142: Gerry Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Runner-Up
150: Adam Tirapelle (Illinois) - NCAA Champ
158: Marty Kistler (Iowa) - 2x NCAA Champ
167: Dave Schultz (Oklahoma) - NCAA Champ
177: Marks Schultz (Oklahoma) - 3x NCAA Champ
190: Mark Munoz (Oklahoma State) - 2x NCAA Champ
HWT: Stephen Neal (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
I think this team may have the upper hand on the NY team.
Just My Opinion.

Jim Nordland's Team~~ In case you didn't see it I posted a list of all time CA wrestlers and I think they would easily beat your NY Team. Take a look just scroll down the page... If not CA, your team would easily be defeated by Iowa or Oklahoma.

oklahoma beats that team too with John Smith, Pat Smith, Kenny Monday, Hendricks, perry, Lightner, Ware, Cross, etc. As well as the iowa team down below with brands, brands, gable. As well as ohio with Schlatter, Heskett, Rowlands, Kemp, Fried. The list goes on and on. If this was a "you can't find 7 states that are better than NY challenge" you guys might have a chance.

NJ and Ohio would win against that NY college team. Actually CA would too. But none compare to PA when it comes to all time teams.

Take out the HS guys till they do something in college. Winston and Mason are great HS wrestlers but untested in college. NJ should not be mentioning HS guys when we have a champ or multiple AA in each weight.

Nj will spank evry one back then and now!!!!!!!!!