A16099 (#75): add to PA lineup:
125: Jim Martin, 1x champ, 2x finalist, 4x top-4 finish
149: Scott Turner, 1988 OW
184: Rob Rohn, 1x champ, possibly the most famous win in NCAA history
Hwt: Steve Sefter. Never won a title, but 2x AA weighing 225 lbs against 400-lb wrestlers -- and only wrestled half-seasons since on PSU football scholarship.
Read article on 6-22-08 Long Island Challeng. I saw Pete Galea's name. I went to college at Iowa State with Pete. I also used to regularly beat him in one on one hoops.Of course then he would take me to the wrestling room and extract his revenge, I am trying to reach him just to say hey. Was working in Iowa with the State but can not locate him. Appreciate any help. Dave
Guy's it was Great to see all these Names once again and also to go back in time to rememeber them Wrestling..I still think my High School Team of the 70's is the best in the Country in any Era..Thats my opinion..Some Great Wrestlers on everyone list,I hope u enjoyed this post,B/C I did..Thank's
Oklahoma wrestling is where it is at. This state is rich in tradion. This team I put together has (18) national champions, (7) runnerups and a total of (36) all americans with just these ten wrestlers. Everyone on this team was in the finals at least 1 time and all but 1 has at least 1 championship. To show that as a state we premote wrestiling all the way through thier careers they all stayed in state to wrestle in college also. This team also produced (4) gold medals, (1) silver, (1) 4th, (1) 6th at the olympic level. This is just a short list and I can't tell you how many all americans and champions that did not make the list .
118 Rex Peery 3x Ncaa champion
126 Kendal Cross 3x all american 6-1-3 olympic gold medal and 6th
134 John Smith 3x all american 2-1-1 olympic (2) gold medals
142 Leroy Bailey 3x all american 5-4-1
150 Kenny Monday 3x all american 2-2-1 olympic gold, silver and 4th
158 Pat Smith !st ever 4x champion in ncca history
167 Mark Branch 4x all american 1-2-2-1
177 Tyron Lewis 4x all american 5-3-5-2
190 J.J. McGrew 2x all american 1-7
HWT Richard Hutton 4x all american 1-1-2-1
Rick,
The 11 were from District 7 as I also graduated from that district in 1995 so I personally knew or know many of these wrestlers. Also, including myself and many in the district and in my high school,Canon McMillan, at that time, were truly not focused enough on our school work. Alot of wrestlers ended up in D2 and D3 and even many great athletic wrestlers including state champs ended up sadly to say doing absolutely nothing with their talent that God had given them. I have gotten into coaching almost mainly because of this, I stress academics in my program as much as technique and work ethic because without all three you cannot become a complete wrestler that makes the most out of a career. Out of our district we have brought home about 7 or so D2 National titles during this same time era. I recognize you as a respectful person and a good advocate of this sport. Take care.
wow. thats pretty impressive if all those guys were from the same conference. Shore Conference in NJ has emerged to be a national power and recruiting hotbed, but the problem with many of the guys is that they go D2 or D3 because their grades or scores werent good enough for a D1 school, and in reality, the same guys then have a history of also tearing up D3 pretty good. I wont go into the debate of D1 v. D3 here though.
It would be cool to see how much even better some of the shore guys would do if some of them would have been more committed to school in hs, and decided to go on to bigger schools for more national exposure at D1.
Im sure that D7 over there probably sees the same image though with your guys
11 of the PA HS Team from 1990 - 2000 are from one conference, the WPIAL, District 7. If I were to compile a team of all time from District 7 it would probably be way more accredited than any district or conference in the country.
Also, Kurt Angle graduated before 1990 or else he would be on the list...
Thanks for the support!
Name me a better line up of high school guys from the SAME CONFERENCE. The Shore Conference in New Jersey has put out some serious contenders. Going by the whole state, NJ/PA/OH/IL/CA/IA/MN are generally comparable.
But by a single high school CONFERENCE, try this on for size: (Im skethy on each weight class specifically and where they did college, etc., but they are still a tough one to beat, considering they are all from the SAME CONFERENCE
Clendenin
Luke & Jude Skove
Glen Pritzloff
Doug Parise
Frank Edgar
Worthy
Frank Molinaro (3x Champ; Penn. St redshirt)
All of the Roy Brothers
Bryan Stout (4xAA at Clarion)
Winston (4x st. champ, #1 ranked nationally in hs; yet to see in college...)
Damion Hahn
Kevin Hoy
These are some great wrestlers but PA has some serious talent. Look at the two PA hs line ups. The one listed below is pretty sick. Most of them were NCAA champs. Not sure anyone can beat a lineup of nearly all NCAA champs and most of the rest multiple AA's. Hunter, Moore, Angle, Kolat, Hughes, Jones, Letters, Trenge....
I still stand by the Iowa team being the best ever.
I put an OR team together. Something that's interesting though is that almost all of my OR picks, not only wrestled in HS in OR, but wrestled in college in OR. They didn't need to leave the state to get it done. With the exception of two wrestlers in Larry Owings and Bobby Janisse. Had to leave a few greats off the list like Glen Garrison, Matt Lindland, Joe Russell, Shane Webster, Howard Harris, Larry Beilenberg, Greg Gibson, John Miller, Travis West and Broderick Lee and Roger Weigel.
Oregon
118-Rick Sanders-3 time D2 Champ, 2-time D1 champ and 3 time finalist, Olympian
126-Bobby Janisse-Wrestled for ASU until he died.
134-Robin Reed-Probably greatest wrestler of all time
142-Dan Hicks-2 time NCAA Champ, Wrestler of the Decade at his weight
150-Larry Owings-NCAA Champ, 3 time finalist
158-Dan Russell-4 time D2 Champ, multiple AA in D1, World medalist
167-Dan Conway-NCAA Champ
177-Les Gutches-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
190-Greg Strobel-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
HWT-Jess Lewis-2 time NCAA Champ
Here is a California College Team not in a 10 year span. I thiink the 10 year span was only for the High School team.
118: Adam Cuestas (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
126: Stephen Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Champ
134: Eric Guerrero (Oklahoma State) - 3x NCAA Champ
142: Gerry Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Runner-Up
150: Adam Tirapelle (Illinois) - NCAA Champ
158: Marty Kistler (Iowa) - 2x NCAA Champ
167: Dave Schultz (Oklahoma) - NCAA Champ
177: Marks Schultz (Oklahoma) - 3x NCAA Champ
190: Mark Munoz (Oklahoma State) - 2x NCAA Champ
HWT: Stephen Neal (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
I think this team may have the upper hand on the NY team.
Just My Opinion.
Jim Nordland's Team~~ In case you didn't see it I posted a list of all time CA wrestlers and I think they would easily beat your NY Team. Take a look just scroll down the page... If not CA, your team would easily be defeated by Iowa or Oklahoma.
oklahoma beats that team too with John Smith, Pat Smith, Kenny Monday, Hendricks, perry, Lightner, Ware, Cross, etc. As well as the iowa team down below with brands, brands, gable. As well as ohio with Schlatter, Heskett, Rowlands, Kemp, Fried. The list goes on and on. If this was a "you can't find 7 states that are better than NY challenge" you guys might have a chance.
Take out the HS guys till they do something in college. Winston and Mason are great HS wrestlers but untested in college. NJ should not be mentioning HS guys when we have a champ or multiple AA in each weight.
118lbs~~Carl DeStefanis~~ Penn State~~ NCAA Champ
Brad Penrith~~NCAA Champ
126lbs~~Nick Gallo~~Hofstra~~NCAA Champ MOW
Jeff Prescott~~NCAA Champ
134lbs~~Clar Anderson~~OKLA State~~NCAA Champ
142lbs~~Peter Yozzo~~Lehigh~~NCAA Champ
150lbs~~Jesse Jantzen~~Harvard~~NCAA Champ
158lbs~~Carl Adams~~Iowa State~~2X NCAA Champ
167lbs~~Kieth Stearns~~Okla~~NCAA Champ
177lbs~~Ed Banach~~Iowa~~3X NCAA Champ
190lbs~~Kerry McCoy~~Penn State~~NCAA Champ~~ I think Kerry was a 2XNCAA Champ
Hwtlbs~~Lou Banach~~Iowa~~2X NCAA Champ
All These Good Old Boys came from and Wrestled in NY, can anyone put together a better College Team then this,Where all the Wrestlers,wrestled in the same State,I do not think it can be done..?
103. Joe Dubuque (2x st champ, HS national champ, 2x Ncaa champ)
112 Matt Valenti (2x st champ, HS national runner up, 2x NCAA champ)
119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd (pick your poison. Fargo champ 3x state champ and NCAA runner up among them). Dowd may be the best for HS purposes.
125 Mike Grey (4 x state champ, fargo champ, already frosh AA)
130 Corey Cooperman (multiple prep champ, multiple fargo champ, multiple AA at lehigh)
135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray (3 x state champ, multiple prep champ, multiple AA) I'll take Logan in a close one.
140 Mario Mason (won everything there was to win in HS, beat Olympic team member at Fargo)/Brett Matter(2x state champ NCAA champ)/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black (one loss in HS). I'll take Mason in a very close one.
145 Zach Esposito (won everything there was to win in HS, NCAA champ)
152 Don Pritzlaff (3x state champ, 2x NCAA champ, Junior World champ). Darrion Caldwell (3x state champ, pure athlete, ready to further shock the collegiate world). Its tough to leave Caldwell off the team but Pritzlaff is too much of a BA.
160 Scott Winston (undefeated in HS, Fargo champ, HS national champ)
171 Glenn Pritzlaff (3x state champ, NCAA champ)
189 Damion Hahn (nobody touches hahn's in High School career except Kolat)
HWT Steve Mocco (see Hahn as a heavy weight).
What say you?
hlywdboc1. I've seen at least 4 teams below that spank ur NY team. Can we call this quits yet? by the way where is ohio? Seeing Alex Tirappelle's name below reminds me of when Dustin schlatter had a takedown clinic with him at the beast of the east.
Rrockwell~~u write a page on how not to put up College and NCAA Titles..But back then in the 70's there where not as many Nationlly ranked Tournaments,I remember going out and Wrestling all over PA and NJ.put never got a National Rankings out of it.So then u put together a Great team with all NCAA TITLE"S and Olympic Titles...So Who's not making any sense here..it's the only way to "GAGE" these Wrestler's from the Past thats all..But i must say this is Fun...lol...My point of this Challenge was..that I bet no one Know how many Great Wrestlers came out of New York..along with NCAA Coaches right now..Ryan,McCoy,Adam's Spates..Who at Best could only Win One NY State Title and some never did,But went onto win multp.NCAA TITLE...Thats how "DEEP" we were back in the Day...all NY Boy's
Memphis~~oh how I miss Beal Street..lol.. ur right this is Only High School and in a Ten Year Time Frame..I emailed Joe from Flo,Jimmy's College Team.But he just hasn't posted it Yet..He will,The Guy's been running around the World,Needs some down Time with his Lady...lol...Martain's working him to much...
your right the list,I put up here was when NY only have One State Tournament,and One Champion.I Hate this DI and DII Championships,I think is does nothing but Water down the State..No I am Not related to JP O'Connor,Great Kid and GREAT Wrestler,I was the Best O'Connor Wrestler in NY until He came along..lol...I tell him that all the time..lol..along with his Coach MR.Green...
Guys Great Teams and even Great Names coming out..But really from 155lbs to Hwt. I do not care who u put up ur not beating or winning one Match...Dom Macchia Beat Ed Banach and also Beat Lou..Never mind How Great Kieth Streans was then holding up the end is Chris Edmonds.Thats 8 NCAA Championships and 3 Olympic Gold's..Now as for 126lbs I love it,I see John Fritz and there also was a wrestler named Freck or Frack that would come down to the Island and wrestle in a Summer Tournament know as "THE NEWBRIDGE ROAD" Open Tournament, where Bob Antonacci would B*T*H Slap those two every year..lol...and Carl DeStefanis along with another Long Island wrestler Paul Widerman who is not on the list of High School greats Beat ur good old boy Bob Weaver...I Have to go back and look up some other Match-ups..I think Blatnick and Bruce Baumgraner squared of a couple of times..
103 - Darrell Vasquez 4x State Champ/2nd @ Nationals
112- Stephen Abas 4x Placer /3x Champ/HS Nationals Champ (MVP)/HS Dream Team
119- Brian Moreno 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team/ Record-205-17
125- Eric Guerrero 4x Placer/3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
130- Nathan Morgan 4x Finalist/3x Champ/HS Dream Team/Record-167-6
135- Alex Tirapelle 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
140- Troy Tirapelle 3x Champ/3rd HS Nationals/HS Dream Team
145- Scott Chapman 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
152- Jason Welch 4x Finalist/3x Champ/HS Dream Team (6th Midlands while in High School)
160- Louis Bland 4x Finalist/3x Champ
171- Jake Varner 4x Placer/2x Champ/2nd HS Nationals/Record-157-10
189- Mark Munoz 2x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
215- Ryan Flores 3x Placer/2x Champ/2nd HS Nationals/Record-193-19
HWT- Hector Torres 3x Placer/2x Champ/6th HS Nationals
PA TEAM - 80'S
118 - JACK CUVO/RICK BONOMO
126 - JIM MARTIN
134 - CD MOCK/SCOTT LYNCH/SEAN ODAY
142 - PAT SANTORO
150 - SCOTT TURNER*/NATE CARR
158 - RON KOLL
167 - MATT REIS
HW - CARLTON HASELRIG
PA TEAM - 70'S
126 - JOHN FRITZ
134 - DON ROHN/GARY BARTON/TOM SCULLEY
142 - DAN MUTHLER/ JIM BENNETT
150 - STAN DZIEDZIC/WADE SCHALLES*
158 - WADE SCHALLES
167 - ANDY MATTER
177 - GEOFF BAUM/ FLOYD HITCH*
Anonymous coward now you got me all fired up. How did your 4x'er Jantzen do with our 0'xer Dave Espo? And how did your 5'xer Nickerson do with our 2x'er Dubuque?
Forgot Kellen Russell (Hs national champ) and Jordan Burroughs (HS national champ). Grey can go 119 and put russell in at 25. Jordan would push for a spot somewhere in the middle. Hey anonymous coward not to split hairs but you're not sticking to the guidelines that your state has set. But while on the topic, our 3 x'er caldwell dominated your 4 x'er O'connor twice this year. And espo was only a soph when he lost to jantzen who was a senior. He later avenged that loss as well. NJ > NY but topic for a different time. Right now its NJ 96-06 > NY 70's.
hey anonymous coward we are talking highschool here. and those guys aren't wrestling some over hyped ny wrestlers from the 70's are that only know a double and a half.
i agree with nj. wrestling back in the 70's was much diffrent then wrestling now. now you have legs on top and a whole lot more moves and technique. the 70's guys would be put at a big disadvantage.
Also, having a 7th or 8th grader win your state ever is somewhat of an embarrassment. Just kidding its kinda cool but NJ never even had a 4 timer until Mike Grey. That's depth. I'd be interested in seeing PA and OH. I think those teams would be pretty brutal.
Ok hllywdboc1 here's the nj team again with their hs and post hs accomplishments and you decide if Dubuque Valenti and the rest can't win. And yes this is a ten year period. And I forgot to add mario mason. Got anyone that can beat him? Or hahn? Or Winston? Or Mike Grey? or the majority of that team? I believe this meets your guidelines. If you can't admit defeat on this, there's no helping you. Let's see the match by match break down.
103. Joe Dubuque (2x st champ, HS national champ, 2x Ncaa champ)
112 Matt Valenti (2x st champ, HS national runner up, 2x NCAA champ)
119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd (pick your poison. Fargo champ 3x state champ and NCAA runner up among them). Dowd may be the best for HS purposes.
125 Mike Grey (4 x state champ, fargo champ, already frosh AA)
130 Corey Cooperman (multiple prep champ, multiple fargo champ, multiple AA at lehigh)
135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray (3 x state champ, multiple prep champ, multiple AA) I'll take Logan in a close one.
140 Mario Mason (won everything there was to win in HS, beat Olympic team member at Fargo)/Brett Matter(2x state champ NCAA champ)/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black (one loss in HS). I'll take Mason in a very close one.
145 Zach Esposito (won everything there was to win in HS, NCAA champ)
152 Don Pritzlaff (3x state champ, 2x NCAA champ, Junior World champ). Darrion Caldwell (3x state champ, pure athlete, ready to further shock the collegiate world). Its tough to leave Caldwell off the team but Pritzlaff is too much of a BA.
160 Scott Winston (undefeated in HS, Fargo champ, HS national champ)
171 Glenn Pritzlaff (3x state champ, NCAA champ)
189 Damion Hahn (nobody touches hahn's in High School career except Kolat)
HWT Steve Mocco (see Hahn as a heavy weight).
What say you?
lol you guys honestly think ny is good. they are bad compare to nj. do guys really think a 4x from ny can beat a 2x from nj. hell no. maybe if you had one state tournament you guys wouldn't have so many 4x or 3x. nj is hardcore and the list below from nj would demolish that ny team. also keep in mind that the ny guys would not know as good technique as the nj guys due to time frame. wrestling evolved quite dramatically going into the 90's.
Why are we even mentioning college accomplishments if its a high school lineup you're looking for? Seems pointless. Its almost like you took years to come up with the best criteria to make your state look its best, then finally found it, but want to include college accomplishments in with your arguement for why they are the greatest HS lineup of all time. omparing one animal to another(HS to college) doesn't make sense. especially during the before 1990 era in which most of these guys only saw national competition at FR/GR nationals and that's about it.
What the criteria should be is, pick a year when HS wrestlers overall really started taking off with the National tournaments(Fargo, Beast, Ironman, NHSCA, Reno, etc.) and there were more than just local teams there. Then only mention their HS accomplishments and that it.
Then draw up a senior team only, mentioning their college accomplishments(NCAA) and Senior level accomplishments(FR/GR).
BTW, no time frames. That's dumb, IMO.
Mixing all of them together to make your point makes no sense.
And if I were to wager any state has the best, who could argue with this team-
118 Barry Davis, 3X NCAA, Olympic Silver (HOF)
126 Terry Brands, 2X NCAA, 2X World Champ, Olympic Bronze (HOF)
134 Tom Brands, 3X NCAA, 1X World Champ, Olympic Gold (HOF)
142 Dan Gable, 2x NCAA, 1X World Champ, Olympic Gold (HOF)
150 Bill Nelson, 3X NCAA, Olympian (HOF)
158 Jim Zalesky, 3X NCAA (HOF)
167 Bill Smith, 2X NCAA Olympic Gold (HOF)
177 Glen Brand 1X NCAA, Olympic Gold (HOF)
190 Lee Fullhart 1X NCAA, 1X US Senior Freestyle Champ
HWT Tolly Thompson, 1X NCAA, World Bronze
Here is my California selections for your weights based on my limited knowledge of CA wrestling. I do not pretend to speak for the entire state of california when I post this:
118: Stephen Abas- Olympic silver medalist, 3X NCAA Champ
126: Eric Guerrero- Olympic Team member, World Champ, 3X NCAA Champ
134: Azevedo- Olympic team member (1980 when Carter boycotted the Olympics), World Champion, NCAA Champ
142: Gerry Abas- 3X NCAA FInalist
150: Jamil kelly- Olympic Silver medalist
158: AdamTirapelle- NCAA Champ
167: Dave Shultz- Olympic Gold medalist, 2X NCAA Champ (You all should know)
177: Mark Shultz- Olympic Gold medalist, 3X NCAA Champ
190: Dan Chaid- NCAA Champ, 2nd, 4th
HWT: Stephen Neal- World Champ, NCAA Champ, 2nd
As faras HS during a 10 year time span... I think that you can sy NY has the best in that capacity, but it is so narrow a criteria who really cares? Please corredt any mistakes I might have made.
Listen we all know how Great..PA,NJ,and Ohio are..What i want is ur best Team with in a Ten year Time Frame...That Were tough in High School and went onto Great careers in DI and NCAA's and Olympic..The list that is down below,is all wrestlers that wrestled in the 70's and there was never a 7th,8th,or 9th grader winning a State Title,b/c of the Depth that was in front of these Wrestler's at there State Tournament..Dubuque's not beatting DeStefanis or Palacio sorry not happen,Valenti @ 112 not beating Gallo or Clar Anderson,I'm not saying anything~~ well u answer that..
the college team is listed below. Here's the high school team. I'm assuming this is based on HIGH SCHOOL accomplishments? I've only claimed Blair guys when they were originally from NJ. aka no Mark Perry.
103. Joe Dubuque 112 Matt Valenti 119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd 125 Mike Grey 130 Corey Cooperman 135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray 140 Brett Matter/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black 145 Zach Esposito 152 Don Pritzlaff 160 Scott Winston 171 Glenn Pritzlaff 189 Damion Hahn HWT Steve Mocco. Bring it NY!
Hlywdboc1, ok you say ten year time frame. and you want a high school team right? but why do you list NCAA accomplishments then? I need these rules and guidelines tightened up a little bit.
You seem like two good guys who are obviously fans of NY wrestling. But the reality is that PA and OH are pretty far ahead of the country as far as depth looking at AA's and NCAA qualifiers each year clearly shows that. Now, as far as top all time teams go 4 states are very close: the two mentioned above and NJ and CA. In addition to Mike Freedman's post, NJ had mike frick, gene mills, chris campbell and bruce baum. CA: abas, guerrero, tirrapelle, neal and the schultz's to name a few. New York is a slight step below I'd say they come in 5th although Iowa and Illinois may have something to say about that.
Mike Freedman~~thats a "GREAT" College not a High School and not in a Ten year Time frame....The College Team Joe Has to Post and is a little Better then what u Have..So but McCory at Hwt,then but Banach at 190lbs Lou won it there..2nd Team Chirs Edomds NCAA CHamp and Jeff Blatnick DIII and Olympic Champ..Guys come on 1st give me a High School Team Better then we will Started on College..All must be with in a Ten Time Frame.IT CAN NOT BE DONE.!!!!!!
flowrestling, i appreciate everything you have done for the wrestling community. No one even matches up, but you guys will be certified platnum if you can get LiMarty for an interview!
TEAM NJ Just from the Modern ERA!
125 Joe Dubuque 2x NCAA CHAMP, 3x All-American
133 Matt Valenti 2x NCAA Champ, 3x All-American
141 Corry Cooperman 2x - 3rd NCAA's, 3x All-American
149 Zach Esposito NCAA Champ, 3x All-American (3x Top 3)
157 Brett Matter NCAA Champ
165 Donny Prizlaff 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American
174 Mark Perry 2x NCAA Champ , 4x All-American , 4x Top 3
184 Tom Tanis 5th NCAA
197 Damion Hahn 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American
285 Steve Mocco 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American , 4x Finalist
That 6 repeat champions in Mocco, Hahn, Perry, Prizlaff, Valenti and Dubuque. Also Champions were Esposito and Matter so we have 8 of our 10 weights NCAA Champs in the MODERN ERA!
guys ur missing the point here, don't give me 4 or 5 guy's from a State or Era, that Won NCAA Championships and Wrestled in the Olympic's...I want a Team..The Depth in NY back in the 70's was Better then any other State in this Country..and NYOTTER~~Put that line -up together and my Team would B*T** Slap Them..lol~~U know I Love u..But Not even Close..
Come on Ryan, get real. What gives you the impression that a World and/or Oly Champ or 4x NCAA Champ even compares to a 2x NY STATE CHAMP or a NY STATE RUNNER UP.
The wrestlers who have competed at the NCAA from 1997-present from NYS
represent the absolute best the state has ever seen. It is the golden
age of NY wrestling
NCAA Champs- Jantzen, Gillespie, Glenn, Clark, McCoy
Runnerups- Nickerson, Fronhofer, Parker, Garland
AA's-O'Connor, Masa, Weidman, Patrovich, Strouse, Herrington,
Mazzurco, Cerminara, Carvalhiera, Lange, Gleasman, Bernholtz,
Muzshavilli, Showalter, Powell, Rechul, John Clark, Horning, Lucas
no other ten year period can come close to matching it. period
Come on guys I can come up with on top of my head a bunch of guys from Iowa that kill this.
Barry Davis: 3x NCAA Champ - Olympic Silver Medalist
Tom Brands: 3x NCAA Champ - 2x World Champ and Olympic Champ
Terry Brands: 2x NCAA Champ - 2x World Champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist
Dan Gable: 2x NCAA Champ - World Champ and Olympic Champ
Jim Zalesky: 3x NCAA Champ
And that is just off the top of my head. I havent even looked into wrestlers from Iowa that went to Iowa State or out of state. Lets get real, NY pales to Iowa..
This is Bob's team, he thinks it is unbeatable. Can you prove him wrong.
91lbs~~Al Palacio-3x NY State Champ-Runner-up NCAA'S
98lbs~~Carl DeStefanis-2x NY State Champ-NCAA Champ
105lbs~~Jack Spates-NY State Champ-Runner-up NCAA'S
112lbs~~Nick Gallo-4th NY State-NCAA Champ
119lbs~~Clar Anderson-2x NY State Champ- NCAA Champ
126lbs~~Bob Antonacci-2x NY State Champ-went onto a "Stella" career at Iowa DI--Held the Gininess Book Of World records for the most "Consecutive Push-Ups"
132lbs~~Steve Hunt-2x NY State Champ-Wrestled for Iowa DI "Big 8 Champ" Top Seed @ the NCAA'S
138lbs~~Frank DeAngelis-2x NY State Champ-Runner-Up NCAA'S
145lbs~~Pete Galea-2nd in NY State-wrestled for Iowa State where he won 4 Big 8 Championships
155lbs~~sorry I have to put 3 wrestlers here-you can pick the lesser of the three
1.Kieth Streans-NY State Champ-NCAA Champ for Oklahama.
2.Dom Macchia-NY State Champ and 3rd in NY State-Beat Ed Banach in the Final's @ 155lbs
3.Chris Edmonds-3rd in NY State-NCAA Champ-but could not beat Dom Macchia from the same section
167lbs~~Ed Banach-NY State Champ-3x NCAA Champ and Olympic Champ
177lbs~~Lou Banach-NY State Champ-2x NCAA Champ and Olympic Champ
215lbs~~Jeff Blatnick-NY State Champ-DIII Champ-and Olympic Champ
this Team is from a Ten Year time frame~~1970 to 1979,what i think was the "BEST ERA" in NY State Wrestling
Long Island Challenge
125: Jim Martin, 1x champ, 2x finalist, 4x top-4 finish
149: Scott Turner, 1988 OW
184: Rob Rohn, 1x champ, possibly the most famous win in NCAA history
Hwt: Steve Sefter. Never won a title, but 2x AA weighing 225 lbs against 400-lb wrestlers -- and only wrestled half-seasons since on PSU football scholarship.
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
Ohio
125 - Ricky Bonomo(3X Champ) or Jack Cuvo(2X NCAA Champ) or John Fritz(3X AA; 1X Champ) or Jeremy Hunter(3X AA; 2X Finialist; 1X Champ) or Teague Moore(3X AA; 1X Champ)
133 - Cary Kolat(4X AA; 3X Finalist; 2X Champ) or Coleman Scott(4X AA; 2X Finalist; 1X Champ) or Tom Scully(1X Champ) or Don Rohn(2X AA; 1X Champ) Or C.D. Mock(2X AA; 1X Champ)
141 - Pat Santoro(4X AA; 3X Finalist; 2X Champ) or John Hughes(3X AA; 2X Finalist; 1X Champ)
149 - Nate Carr(3X Champ)
157 - Wade Schalles(4X NCAA Champ; 2X DI, 2X DII) or Rob Koll(4X AA; 1X Champ)
165 - Andy Matter(2X Champ) or Troy Letters(3XAA; 2X Finalist; 1X Champ)
174 - Keith Gavin(2X Finalist, 1X Champ) or Shorty Hitch(1X D1 Champ; 1X DII champ) or Josh Koshcheck(3X AA; 2X Finialist; 1X Champ) or Robbie Waller(2X AA; 1X Champ)
184 - Jake Herbert(4X AA; 2X Champ) or Greg Jones(3X Champ)
197 - Jon Trenge(3X AA; 2nd, 2nd, 3rd) or Phil Davis(4X AA; 2X Finalist; 1X Champ)
285 - Carlton Haselrig(6X NCAA Champ; 3X DI, 3X DII) or Kurt Angle(3X AA; 2X Champ)
118 Rex Peery 3x Ncaa champion
126 Kendal Cross 3x all american 6-1-3 olympic gold medal and 6th
134 John Smith 3x all american 2-1-1 olympic (2) gold medals
142 Leroy Bailey 3x all american 5-4-1
150 Kenny Monday 3x all american 2-2-1 olympic gold, silver and 4th
158 Pat Smith !st ever 4x champion in ncca history
167 Mark Branch 4x all american 1-2-2-1
177 Tyron Lewis 4x all american 5-3-5-2
190 J.J. McGrew 2x all american 1-7
HWT Richard Hutton 4x all american 1-1-2-1
The 11 were from District 7 as I also graduated from that district in 1995 so I personally knew or know many of these wrestlers. Also, including myself and many in the district and in my high school,Canon McMillan, at that time, were truly not focused enough on our school work. Alot of wrestlers ended up in D2 and D3 and even many great athletic wrestlers including state champs ended up sadly to say doing absolutely nothing with their talent that God had given them. I have gotten into coaching almost mainly because of this, I stress academics in my program as much as technique and work ethic because without all three you cannot become a complete wrestler that makes the most out of a career. Out of our district we have brought home about 7 or so D2 National titles during this same time era. I recognize you as a respectful person and a good advocate of this sport. Take care.
It would be cool to see how much even better some of the shore guys would do if some of them would have been more committed to school in hs, and decided to go on to bigger schools for more national exposure at D1.
Im sure that D7 over there probably sees the same image though with your guys
11 of the PA HS Team from 1990 - 2000 are from one conference, the WPIAL, District 7. If I were to compile a team of all time from District 7 it would probably be way more accredited than any district or conference in the country.
Also, Kurt Angle graduated before 1990 or else he would be on the list...
Thanks for the support!
Name me a better line up of high school guys from the SAME CONFERENCE. The Shore Conference in New Jersey has put out some serious contenders. Going by the whole state, NJ/PA/OH/IL/CA/IA/MN are generally comparable.
But by a single high school CONFERENCE, try this on for size: (Im skethy on each weight class specifically and where they did college, etc., but they are still a tough one to beat, considering they are all from the SAME CONFERENCE
Clendenin
Luke & Jude Skove
Glen Pritzloff
Doug Parise
Frank Edgar
Worthy
Frank Molinaro (3x Champ; Penn. St redshirt)
All of the Roy Brothers
Bryan Stout (4xAA at Clarion)
Winston (4x st. champ, #1 ranked nationally in hs; yet to see in college...)
Damion Hahn
Kevin Hoy
103 - JEREMY HUNTER 4X PIAA, 171 - 2, NCAA CHAMP
112 - BOB CRAWFORD 4X PIAA, 138 - 2 / JUSTIN SPATES 2X PIAA
119 - TEAGUE MOORE 1X PIAA, 140 - 9 - 1,NCAA CHAMP
/TY MOORE 4X PIAA, 146 - 1
125 - CARY KOLAT 4X PIAA, 137 - 0, NCAA CHAMP
/MARK ANGLE 1X PIAA 148 - 3
130 - JAMAR BILLMAN 2X PIAA,141 - 17
/TOM TOMEO 2X PIAA, 143 - 8
135 - RUSS HUGHES 3X PIAA, 140 -6
/BRYAN SNYDER 1XPIAA
140 - JOHN HUGHES 4X PIAA, 142 -2 -1, NCAA CHAMP
145 - MIKE SHINGARA 3X PIAA, 138 - 4
/JEFF CATRABONE 2X PIAA, 146 - 12
152 - TROY LETTERS 2X PIAA,146 - 4, NCAA CHAMP
160 - GREG JONES 2X PIAA,NCAA CHAMP
/ROB WALLER 1X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP
/RAY BRINZER 3X PIAA, 143 -5-1
171 - VERTUS JONES, 1X PIAA, 144 -11 -1
189 - ROB ROHN, 1X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP
/JON TRENGE 2X PIAA, 145 - 15
HW - JEFF WALTER 2X PIAA, NCAA CHAMP
I put an OR team together. Something that's interesting though is that almost all of my OR picks, not only wrestled in HS in OR, but wrestled in college in OR. They didn't need to leave the state to get it done. With the exception of two wrestlers in Larry Owings and Bobby Janisse. Had to leave a few greats off the list like Glen Garrison, Matt Lindland, Joe Russell, Shane Webster, Howard Harris, Larry Beilenberg, Greg Gibson, John Miller, Travis West and Broderick Lee and Roger Weigel.
Oregon
118-Rick Sanders-3 time D2 Champ, 2-time D1 champ and 3 time finalist, Olympian
126-Bobby Janisse-Wrestled for ASU until he died.
134-Robin Reed-Probably greatest wrestler of all time
142-Dan Hicks-2 time NCAA Champ, Wrestler of the Decade at his weight
150-Larry Owings-NCAA Champ, 3 time finalist
158-Dan Russell-4 time D2 Champ, multiple AA in D1, World medalist
167-Dan Conway-NCAA Champ
177-Les Gutches-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
190-Greg Strobel-2 time NCAA Champ, Olympian
HWT-Jess Lewis-2 time NCAA Champ
118: Adam Cuestas (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
126: Stephen Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Champ
134: Eric Guerrero (Oklahoma State) - 3x NCAA Champ
142: Gerry Abas (Fresno State) - 3x NCAA Runner-Up
150: Adam Tirapelle (Illinois) - NCAA Champ
158: Marty Kistler (Iowa) - 2x NCAA Champ
167: Dave Schultz (Oklahoma) - NCAA Champ
177: Marks Schultz (Oklahoma) - 3x NCAA Champ
190: Mark Munoz (Oklahoma State) - 2x NCAA Champ
HWT: Stephen Neal (Bakersfield) - 2x NCAA Champ
I think this team may have the upper hand on the NY team.
Just My Opinion.
Brad Penrith~~NCAA Champ
126lbs~~Nick Gallo~~Hofstra~~NCAA Champ MOW
Jeff Prescott~~NCAA Champ
134lbs~~Clar Anderson~~OKLA State~~NCAA Champ
142lbs~~Peter Yozzo~~Lehigh~~NCAA Champ
150lbs~~Jesse Jantzen~~Harvard~~NCAA Champ
158lbs~~Carl Adams~~Iowa State~~2X NCAA Champ
167lbs~~Kieth Stearns~~Okla~~NCAA Champ
177lbs~~Ed Banach~~Iowa~~3X NCAA Champ
190lbs~~Kerry McCoy~~Penn State~~NCAA Champ~~ I think Kerry was a 2XNCAA Champ
Hwtlbs~~Lou Banach~~Iowa~~2X NCAA Champ
All These Good Old Boys came from and Wrestled in NY, can anyone put together a better College Team then this,Where all the Wrestlers,wrestled in the same State,I do not think it can be done..?
112 Matt Valenti (2x st champ, HS national runner up, 2x NCAA champ)
119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd (pick your poison. Fargo champ 3x state champ and NCAA runner up among them). Dowd may be the best for HS purposes.
125 Mike Grey (4 x state champ, fargo champ, already frosh AA)
130 Corey Cooperman (multiple prep champ, multiple fargo champ, multiple AA at lehigh)
135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray (3 x state champ, multiple prep champ, multiple AA) I'll take Logan in a close one.
140 Mario Mason (won everything there was to win in HS, beat Olympic team member at Fargo)/Brett Matter(2x state champ NCAA champ)/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black (one loss in HS). I'll take Mason in a very close one.
145 Zach Esposito (won everything there was to win in HS, NCAA champ)
152 Don Pritzlaff (3x state champ, 2x NCAA champ, Junior World champ). Darrion Caldwell (3x state champ, pure athlete, ready to further shock the collegiate world). Its tough to leave Caldwell off the team but Pritzlaff is too much of a BA.
160 Scott Winston (undefeated in HS, Fargo champ, HS national champ)
171 Glenn Pritzlaff (3x state champ, NCAA champ)
189 Damion Hahn (nobody touches hahn's in High School career except Kolat)
HWT Steve Mocco (see Hahn as a heavy weight).
What say you?
103 - Darrell Vasquez 4x State Champ/2nd @ Nationals
112- Stephen Abas 4x Placer /3x Champ/HS Nationals Champ (MVP)/HS Dream Team
119- Brian Moreno 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team/ Record-205-17
125- Eric Guerrero 4x Placer/3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
130- Nathan Morgan 4x Finalist/3x Champ/HS Dream Team/Record-167-6
135- Alex Tirapelle 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
140- Troy Tirapelle 3x Champ/3rd HS Nationals/HS Dream Team
145- Scott Chapman 3x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
152- Jason Welch 4x Finalist/3x Champ/HS Dream Team (6th Midlands while in High School)
160- Louis Bland 4x Finalist/3x Champ
171- Jake Varner 4x Placer/2x Champ/2nd HS Nationals/Record-157-10
189- Mark Munoz 2x Champ/HS National Champ/HS Dream Team
215- Ryan Flores 3x Placer/2x Champ/2nd HS Nationals/Record-193-19
HWT- Hector Torres 3x Placer/2x Champ/6th HS Nationals
118 - TEAGUE MOORE
125 - JEREMY HUNTER
134 - CARY KOLAT
142 - JOHN HUGHES/SCOTT COLLINS
165 - TROY LETTERS
174 - GREG JONES/JOSH KOSCHECK/ROB WALLER
184 - GREG JONES/ROB ROHN
190 - PAUL KEYSHAW
HW - KURT ANGLE/SYLVESTER TERKAY/JEFF WALTER
ALL NCAA CHAMPS THAT CAME FROM PA, NOT TO MENTION NON NCAA CHAMPS RAY BRINZER, TY MOORE, MARK ANGLE,BRYAN SNYDER,VERTUS JONES, ETC. ETC.
118 - JACK CUVO/RICK BONOMO
126 - JIM MARTIN
134 - CD MOCK/SCOTT LYNCH/SEAN ODAY
142 - PAT SANTORO
150 - SCOTT TURNER*/NATE CARR
158 - RON KOLL
167 - MATT REIS
HW - CARLTON HASELRIG
ALL NCAA CHAMPS THAT CAME FROM PA, * = OW NCAA'S
126 - JOHN FRITZ
134 - DON ROHN/GARY BARTON/TOM SCULLEY
142 - DAN MUTHLER/ JIM BENNETT
150 - STAN DZIEDZIC/WADE SCHALLES*
158 - WADE SCHALLES
167 - ANDY MATTER
177 - GEOFF BAUM/ FLOYD HITCH*
ALL NCAA CHAMPS THAT CAME FROM PA, * = OW NCAA'S
you do the math
103. Joe Dubuque (2x st champ, HS national champ, 2x Ncaa champ)
112 Matt Valenti (2x st champ, HS national runner up, 2x NCAA champ)
119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd (pick your poison. Fargo champ 3x state champ and NCAA runner up among them). Dowd may be the best for HS purposes.
125 Mike Grey (4 x state champ, fargo champ, already frosh AA)
130 Corey Cooperman (multiple prep champ, multiple fargo champ, multiple AA at lehigh)
135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray (3 x state champ, multiple prep champ, multiple AA) I'll take Logan in a close one.
140 Mario Mason (won everything there was to win in HS, beat Olympic team member at Fargo)/Brett Matter(2x state champ NCAA champ)/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black (one loss in HS). I'll take Mason in a very close one.
145 Zach Esposito (won everything there was to win in HS, NCAA champ)
152 Don Pritzlaff (3x state champ, 2x NCAA champ, Junior World champ). Darrion Caldwell (3x state champ, pure athlete, ready to further shock the collegiate world). Its tough to leave Caldwell off the team but Pritzlaff is too much of a BA.
160 Scott Winston (undefeated in HS, Fargo champ, HS national champ)
171 Glenn Pritzlaff (3x state champ, NCAA champ)
189 Damion Hahn (nobody touches hahn's in High School career except Kolat)
HWT Steve Mocco (see Hahn as a heavy weight).
What say you?
What the criteria should be is, pick a year when HS wrestlers overall really started taking off with the National tournaments(Fargo, Beast, Ironman, NHSCA, Reno, etc.) and there were more than just local teams there. Then only mention their HS accomplishments and that it.
Then draw up a senior team only, mentioning their college accomplishments(NCAA) and Senior level accomplishments(FR/GR).
BTW, no time frames. That's dumb, IMO.
Mixing all of them together to make your point makes no sense.
And if I were to wager any state has the best, who could argue with this team-
118 Barry Davis, 3X NCAA, Olympic Silver (HOF)
126 Terry Brands, 2X NCAA, 2X World Champ, Olympic Bronze (HOF)
134 Tom Brands, 3X NCAA, 1X World Champ, Olympic Gold (HOF)
142 Dan Gable, 2x NCAA, 1X World Champ, Olympic Gold (HOF)
150 Bill Nelson, 3X NCAA, Olympian (HOF)
158 Jim Zalesky, 3X NCAA (HOF)
167 Bill Smith, 2X NCAA Olympic Gold (HOF)
177 Glen Brand 1X NCAA, Olympic Gold (HOF)
190 Lee Fullhart 1X NCAA, 1X US Senior Freestyle Champ
HWT Tolly Thompson, 1X NCAA, World Bronze
98: Tran - 2x CA Champ - 5th HS Nationals
103: Darrel Vasquez - 4x CA Champ - 1st and only 4x champ beat Palomino his jr year to keep Palomino from becoming the first 4x champ.
112: Stephen Abas - 3x Champ - 4x Placer (4,1,1,1,) HS National Champ
119: Jacob Palomino - 3x Champ - 4x Finalist
125: Jimmy Aguirre - 3x Champ - HS National Champ
130: Eric Guerrero - 3x Champ - 4x Placer (3,1,1,1) HS National Champ (OW) HS Record (224-4)
135: Alex Tirapelle - 3x Champ - HS National Champ
140: Scott Chapman - 3x Champ - HS National Champ
145: Max Odom - 2x Champ - HS National Champ
152: Brody Barrios - 2x Champ - 3x Placer (3,1,1) 2nd HS Nationals
160: Ty Wilcox - 2x Champ - 2nd HS Nationals
171: Casy Strand - 2x Champ - 3x Finalist (2,1,1)
189: Mark Munoz - 2x Champ - HS National Champ (2x College AA NCAA Champ)
215: Zach Cooper - 2x Champ - HS National Champ
HWT: Darin Priesendorf - 2x Champ
118: Stephen Abas- Olympic silver medalist, 3X NCAA Champ
126: Eric Guerrero- Olympic Team member, World Champ, 3X NCAA Champ
134: Azevedo- Olympic team member (1980 when Carter boycotted the Olympics), World Champion, NCAA Champ
142: Gerry Abas- 3X NCAA FInalist
150: Jamil kelly- Olympic Silver medalist
158: AdamTirapelle- NCAA Champ
167: Dave Shultz- Olympic Gold medalist, 2X NCAA Champ (You all should know)
177: Mark Shultz- Olympic Gold medalist, 3X NCAA Champ
190: Dan Chaid- NCAA Champ, 2nd, 4th
HWT: Stephen Neal- World Champ, NCAA Champ, 2nd
As faras HS during a 10 year time span... I think that you can sy NY has the best in that capacity, but it is so narrow a criteria who really cares? Please corredt any mistakes I might have made.
103. Joe Dubuque 112 Matt Valenti 119 Dave Esposito/Mark Manchio/Foley Dowd 125 Mike Grey 130 Corey Cooperman 135 Damion Logan/Sean Gray 140 Brett Matter/Mark Worthy (injuries ruined NCAA career but was one win away from NJ's first four timer)/Labe Black 145 Zach Esposito 152 Don Pritzlaff 160 Scott Winston 171 Glenn Pritzlaff 189 Damion Hahn HWT Steve Mocco. Bring it NY!
125 Joe Dubuque 2x NCAA CHAMP, 3x All-American
133 Matt Valenti 2x NCAA Champ, 3x All-American
141 Corry Cooperman 2x - 3rd NCAA's, 3x All-American
149 Zach Esposito NCAA Champ, 3x All-American (3x Top 3)
157 Brett Matter NCAA Champ
165 Donny Prizlaff 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American
174 Mark Perry 2x NCAA Champ , 4x All-American , 4x Top 3
184 Tom Tanis 5th NCAA
197 Damion Hahn 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American
285 Steve Mocco 2x NCAA Champ, 4x All-American , 4x Finalist
That 6 repeat champions in Mocco, Hahn, Perry, Prizlaff, Valenti and Dubuque. Also Champions were Esposito and Matter so we have 8 of our 10 weights NCAA Champs in the MODERN ERA!
I've got NCAA Champs, finalists, and multiple time AA's
you've got guys that held push up records and were "top seeds"
The wrestlers who have competed at the NCAA from 1997-present from NYS
represent the absolute best the state has ever seen. It is the golden
age of NY wrestling
NCAA Champs- Jantzen, Gillespie, Glenn, Clark, McCoy
Runnerups- Nickerson, Fronhofer, Parker, Garland
AA's-O'Connor, Masa, Weidman, Patrovich, Strouse, Herrington,
Mazzurco, Cerminara, Carvalhiera, Lange, Gleasman, Bernholtz,
Muzshavilli, Showalter, Powell, Rechul, John Clark, Horning, Lucas
no other ten year period can come close to matching it. period
Barry Davis: 3x NCAA Champ - Olympic Silver Medalist
Tom Brands: 3x NCAA Champ - 2x World Champ and Olympic Champ
Terry Brands: 2x NCAA Champ - 2x World Champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist
Dan Gable: 2x NCAA Champ - World Champ and Olympic Champ
Jim Zalesky: 3x NCAA Champ
And that is just off the top of my head. I havent even looked into wrestlers from Iowa that went to Iowa State or out of state. Lets get real, NY pales to Iowa..
91lbs~~Al Palacio-3x NY State Champ-Runner-up NCAA'S
98lbs~~Carl DeStefanis-2x NY State Champ-NCAA Champ
105lbs~~Jack Spates-NY State Champ-Runner-up NCAA'S
112lbs~~Nick Gallo-4th NY State-NCAA Champ
119lbs~~Clar Anderson-2x NY State Champ- NCAA Champ
126lbs~~Bob Antonacci-2x NY State Champ-went onto a "Stella" career at Iowa DI--Held the Gininess Book Of World records for the most "Consecutive Push-Ups"
132lbs~~Steve Hunt-2x NY State Champ-Wrestled for Iowa DI "Big 8 Champ" Top Seed @ the NCAA'S
138lbs~~Frank DeAngelis-2x NY State Champ-Runner-Up NCAA'S
145lbs~~Pete Galea-2nd in NY State-wrestled for Iowa State where he won 4 Big 8 Championships
155lbs~~sorry I have to put 3 wrestlers here-you can pick the lesser of the three
1.Kieth Streans-NY State Champ-NCAA Champ for Oklahama.
2.Dom Macchia-NY State Champ and 3rd in NY State-Beat Ed Banach in the Final's @ 155lbs
3.Chris Edmonds-3rd in NY State-NCAA Champ-but could not beat Dom Macchia from the same section
167lbs~~Ed Banach-NY State Champ-3x NCAA Champ and Olympic Champ
177lbs~~Lou Banach-NY State Champ-2x NCAA Champ and Olympic Champ
215lbs~~Jeff Blatnick-NY State Champ-DIII Champ-and Olympic Champ
this Team is from a Ten Year time frame~~1970 to 1979,what i think was the "BEST ERA" in NY State Wrestling