i agree. you guys talking about bryan you don tknow anything. he would prolly these guys up. you dont with Bryan Bourne. trust me hes better than you think
#70
Phil Leotardo January 10 at 11:06pm
Never saw this match before, great performance by Winston. Funny, seeing all these quotes about Welch, Winston just beat him at Midlands. It will be great to see both their careers develop.
On another note, the new jersey coaches who came up with that award for Winston should not only be embarrassed of themselves, but also flagged by the NJ coaches association. There are no givens in athletics, I don't care how good Scott Winston is. To have that award made, obviously ahead of time and hand it to him on the mat right after his match is completely disrespectful to all of Winston's opponents.
#69
Sal P June 9, 2008 at 12:03pm
I don't care what all of you have to say, Winston is a freakn beast
#68
Tom_x April 30, 2008 at 1:50pm
LISTEN WINSTON LOST AT BOTH JUNIOR AND SENIOR FREESTYLE CHAMPIONSHIPS RECENTLY QUENTIN WRIGHT WON IT QUENTIN WRIGHT WOULD BEAT BOTH SCOTT WINSTON AND JASON WELCH
END OF STORY HAHA
#67
Well April 17, 2008 at 10:34am
you know its impressive when people keep track of the last time you get taken down, welch and winston are completely different, welch will give up a take down and then win by 12, winston will be flawless and win by 5. cant compare them until they meet head to head which likely will not happen. welch is too pretty to head to dirty jersey
#66
Haha April 16, 2008 at 10:01pm
man amongst boys
#65
Yeah Ok April 16, 2008 at 10:01pm
get it straight bud..i dont think anyone in the country could take to winston real bad
#64
Winstonpwnedbywelch April 13, 2008 at 10:37pm
how can you say winston will beat welch? have you seen welch wrestle? winston is solid but welch would take it to winston real bad.
DONT FORGET SUPER 32 finals. that was pretty ugly. i thought winston was out matched against Cubberly
#56
What? March 14, 2008 at 7:39am
too far with the celebration?? haha he won states and completed his undefeated career
#55
Winston Over Welch March 13, 2008 at 10:46pm
Winston is a beast and has perfect technique. Welch is nasty but so sloppy, and won't be able to score some of the garbage points he gets in ca states. Winston would beat him now, but it would be close.
#54
Bluehen March 13, 2008 at 10:28pm
does anyone think scott took it too far with the celebration?
#53
Andy_x March 13, 2008 at 10:22pm
SW your a dummy he lost in Supper 32 finals...Welch in HS matches is the only one undefeated
#52
Sw March 13, 2008 at 9:53pm
NEW YORK WRESTLER...those are the key words come to newjersey and see how u do there Welch and Winston would be a good match but stop hatin cause the kid is undefeated...jersey represent
#51
Shawn_x March 13, 2008 at 9:51pm
hey ohio....you know whats funny?? you think just because he lost to a kid in ohio he couldnt still win states there...Joe Trause anyone? taking 4th and Kirchner taking 1st!!! hes a beast and at 112?? frank Cagnina taking 3rd and Langel winning it all.. Wake UP!!! anything can happen to anyone
#50
Well March 13, 2008 at 5:03pm
he was the only high schooler invited because hes going to northwestern u idiot
#49
Jafo March 13, 2008 at 4:22pm
Watch the Welch-Poeta match elsewhere on this site. Interesting to me that Poeta's style is pretty similar to Winston's. Another observation: you can see Welch adapting to Poeta as the match progresses, he seems to be doing better in the later period, and yes eventually gets a takedown on a spin behind. Pretty impressive, he earned several of his escapes also. He was however one point from being teched. Poeta is in another category. And Kocher and the rest for that matter. Face it it's a whole other level. In D1 state champs are a dime a dozen. Nobody is impressed. It's what you do when you get there. Many a state champ has fallen by the wayside, and many a high school also-ran has risen to be a stud. Know your history and learn the lessons from it.
#48
Reality IS March 13, 2008 at 3:14pm
im a New York wrestler and from what ive seen from winston he is no where near welch's level so please stop this pointless argument
#47
Winston Getting Screwed March 13, 2008 at 2:13pm
Welch is a NO show in Fargo and now Senior Nationals and with 7 High School losses is on the Dream Team and Dapper Dan...You don't think Winston can smack some college guys around right now?...Winston is getting screwed!
#46
Ohio March 13, 2008 at 10:45am
u no whats funny is that one of our ohio guys beat winston so i know who would of won state there
#45
Warhawk Wrestler March 13, 2008 at 7:38am
yo winston is beast!!!! i hope he goes to nations
#44
Yo March 13, 2008 at 6:59am
ok but can welch beat winston?? i think not
#43
GOIN BACK 2 CALI March 12, 2008 at 8:37pm
Dudes- Wake up! While Winston was beating up on high school KIDS, Welch was thumping MEN at the MIDLANDS college tourney as the only high schooler invited. He took down NCAA #1 ranked POETA. R U kidding? He might not pin or tech Winston, but he would major him for sure. NO COMPARISON.
#42
Xjerseynccaliwrestler March 12, 2008 at 12:17pm
jafo- i pulled that '91 match, cross-kolat, up on youtube. relentless grappling session. impressive to watch. amazing for a junior in high school(?). agreed on the maturity and discipline, mentally and physically it takes to be an undefeated athlete. those are a rare breed of individual. godspeed.
#41
Matt_x March 12, 2008 at 7:10am
freshman yr he was at his little brothers wrestling tournament before states and he got hurt i think it was a broken arm or something but yea vallimont probably wouldve beat him but he was only a freshman if he matched up against vallimont today it would be close but i still think vallimont would win..still congrats to scott on an undeafeated career
#40
Jafo March 11, 2008 at 11:46pm
That match happened at the War at the Shore 07. Weight class 162.5. Scholastic style tournament. Results are up on their website http://www.sjwrestling.com. Remember anybody can be beaten on any given day. The level of dedication and maturity required to go undefeated at that young age is what I find to be the most unusual. Kolat did it in PA back in the late 80's I believe, another amazing wrestler. Kolat took it to another level though. He competed in and placed in national level freestyle tournaments in the open division, against NCAA all-americans, NCAA place winners and Olympic hopefuls. While still in high school. Thats unheard of before or since. Still amazed by his match against against Kendall Cross in US Open in 91.
#39
Xjerseynccaliwrestler March 11, 2008 at 7:22pm
jafo- great comment, insightful view of an extremely fundamentally sound, agressive, relentless wrestler... glad to hear info about last summer's tourny (freestyle? greco?)... decided on the mat, as it should be... absolutely agree.. purest sport.. no excuses.
#38
Rush831 March 11, 2008 at 5:45pm
Winston would major Bourne
#37
Mo March 11, 2008 at 3:24pm
cuz he got hurt
#36
Cd March 11, 2008 at 3:22pm
why didnt he wrestle freshman year????
#35
Ryan_x March 11, 2008 at 3:14pm
I would have loved to see how scotty would have done freshmen year at states I think he would have lost to vallimont and gene palko though
#34
Hammer_x March 11, 2008 at 3:04pm
I agree with 3131 sorry ayjay but scotty is amazing although i would like to see him wrestle thoose guys at 157 though Mike poeta, Dan Vallimont, Gregor Gillespie
#33
3131 March 11, 2008 at 2:20pm
ayjay scotty would not get majored by or pinned by the guys u said he would. look at the speed size and size of him. plus he would never see them bc hes going 157 or 165. stupid thing to say. scotty is one of the best in the nation soon.
In today's college wrestling, it would be virtually impossible to go undefeated. That is what makes Cael's record ridiculous. Very few chumps in college. To wrestle studs match after match is physically and mentally grueling. That is why I don't think Winston has a chance at going undefeated. No way does he beat Poeta, and he has 2 losses this year and more going back. Do I think Winston will have a very good college career, yes. Undefeated? No.
#31
Melde Lost March 11, 2008 at 12:52pm
does winston play any other sports besides wrestling?
#30
Ny March 11, 2008 at 12:03pm
i dnt think bourne would give winston that much of a fight i saw him this weekend almost lose to james brundage (junior) of ossining in the quarter finals of states, james is only a 3rd yr wrestler.
#29
Jafo March 11, 2008 at 1:09am
Winston is solid, makes very few mistakes. Has strength and speed, a killer combination and his technique has improved each time I see him wrestle. I did see him get caught last summer, got lat dropped flat to his back and held there for a 5 point move. That tied the score. Winston was able to escape with 15 sec left and won 6-5. That was against Jacque Scott from Delaware. A great match. He's undefeated and he hasn't hidden from anyone. And he wrestles. He's not one of these score a point and stall for 2-1/2 period guys. Looking forward to some great matches in college. Let the predictions fly. It will be decided on the mat, as it should be.
#28
Datdude March 10, 2008 at 11:38pm
Where does Andrew Howe of Indiana fit into this conversation
#27
! March 10, 2008 at 11:31pm
the circle with the hands was supposed to be a zero...zero losses he pulled it off and i guess that was his way of expressing it
#26
Asjdfnl March 10, 2008 at 11:29pm
well i think he could beat caldwell but he was supposed to wreslte vallimont in states as a freshman but got hurt and i think at the time vallimont would have won but you never know you cant knock winston for not beating them because we havent seen him loose ever! so well see how he does in college if he looses i dont know how hell take it hopefuly he knows how to recover
#25
Blackdragon905 March 10, 2008 at 11:18pm
Click on the 152 lb match to see Winston's match, I dunno why its there, but it is.
#24
Sal_x March 10, 2008 at 9:29pm
Scott Winston is great don't get me wrong but he hasn't beat anyone amazing
I want to see how he does in college a question for others on here is how do you think he would do against
Brent Metcalf
Dustin schlatter
gregor gillespie
dan vallimont
darrion caldwell
bennett is ranked ffirst on intermat but i dont know who that is
#21
Think Green And Grow Your Mind March 10, 2008 at 3:02pm
is winston not goin to senior national or welch?
#20
Fargo Champ? March 10, 2008 at 2:33pm
what Freestyle wght did Bourne Win?
#19
Seen Bourne March 10, 2008 at 2:32pm
he was at the Jersey Shore Duals this summer...I think he got pinned and beat 2 other times,won 1...Winston beat him last year...But definately the Univ. of Penn recruit is very good!
#18
Dawg March 10, 2008 at 2:28pm
bryan bourne would give both welch and winston a run. state champ, fargo champ, and nhcsa champ
#17
King Winston March 10, 2008 at 1:54pm
Winston shows up everywhere and will wrestle anybody...Welch(who has 7 High School losses) didn't show up at Fargo (Where Winston was the 160lb Champ) and now He's not going to Senior Nationals..Winston got screwed not being a member of either the dream team or Dapper Dan...Him and Welch should have shared it!
#16
Gjfovf_x March 10, 2008 at 8:20am
Scott works his butt off and is a great kid from an excellent family.
#15
FromNY March 10, 2008 at 1:02am
What about Bryan Bourne from Spencerport, NY? He just won the NY State Title and won JR nationals last season at 160. He also is a Fargo Freestyle Champ. Should be interesting!
#14
Ayo4yayo March 9, 2008 at 10:56pm
i second that
#13
Anonymous_x March 9, 2008 at 10:07pm
Condon from ga only lost to this kid by one at 32s...hes now dropped down to 52 and should make some noise. but in my opinion welch is in a class above everyone else at 160.
#12
Michigan March 9, 2008 at 9:27pm
ben bennett will have something to say about whos thye best 160 in the country
#11
Falcon130 March 9, 2008 at 8:58pm
You guys are all pretty stupid for arguing who's better. Until they actually wrestle no one will know. And they probabley won't wrestle for a while so just drop it. And stop the stupid people who put Cali or Winston as their name in the comments if your not from cali or jersey. Why are you kids arguing over high school wrestlers come on. They are both great wrestlers. Who cares who will win.
#10
Anonymous_x March 9, 2008 at 8:36pm
he broke his wrist before districts freshmen year
#9
Pinner March 9, 2008 at 8:32pm
What state did he wrestle in his freshman year? He is only a 3xer
On another note, the new jersey coaches who came up with that award for Winston should not only be embarrassed of themselves, but also flagged by the NJ coaches association. There are no givens in athletics, I don't care how good Scott Winston is. To have that award made, obviously ahead of time and hand it to him on the mat right after his match is completely disrespectful to all of Winston's opponents.
END OF STORY HAHA
I want to see how he does in college a question for others on here is how do you think he would do against
Brent Metcalf
Dustin schlatter
gregor gillespie
dan vallimont
darrion caldwell