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pete
2 years ago
60 folkdude you are CRAZY!!! there needs to be way more time in greco. i don't understand why freestyle gets 30 and greco gets 5...it should be AT LEAST 15/15. think about it, all your set ups are GRECO moves. you would be no where without upperbody wrestling... |
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2 years ago
PA kids do the same thing. I've seen it. |
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PAProud
2 years ago
And that is exactly why PA rules Fargo and NCAA AA's year in and year out. We teach our kids how to get after it, not to milk the rules for the easiest, least earned win possible. |
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2 years ago
Too bad that's not how the matches go. Guys score, then shut it down and basically stall to secure the win. Go to Fargo and that's exactly how the Minnesota kids are coached to do it. Score, grab a 2 on 1 and hold on for the win. BORING! |
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PAProud
2 years ago
It is really easy to make the rules a non-factor. |
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2 years ago
They think its boring because there is virtually no action and the rules are dumb. Thus, the reason why there are no people in the stands. |
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2 years ago
any of these as long as its not football, or baseball for christ's sake |
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PAProud
2 years ago
People who hate on Free/Greco hide from getting their asses whooped. There are no rules in Free/Greco to protect pansies. If you stall in free/greco, you at least got to be tough to do it. |
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pete
2 years ago
60 folk |
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2 years ago
agreeing with the guy below me, wrestling the international styles can be one of the best ways to see the best competition. You can go to your free/greco state tournament, which is always interesting in those states with multiple divisions because you could have several champs in the same weight class (i remember a year back a brutal weight at my freestyle state with three folkstyle state champs who would have never competed with each other otherwise) |
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Robert Gacad
2 years ago
Lots of good points on why you should wrestle Greco/Freestyle in the summer. One point I'll add is seeking out the best competition, which in the summer you can find them wrestling the international styles. |
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CrossTraining
2 years ago
Freestyle and Greco are definitely the most important in the summer because they're main focus is neutral wrestling, which as everyone knows can be the difference in a match. The international styles also teach you anticipate what is coming when you are on bottom and get into defense early, I heard Dennis Hall say that specifically. If you look at the kids that are at the top of the folkstyle world in highschool such as Logan Stieber... or guys in college like Jake Varner, Jake Hebert, Brent Metcalf, all do freestyle in the offseason. Greco is also big because it focuses on pummeling and not giving up position. |
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INSIGHT123
2 years ago
Hey I appreciate both styles and instead of tryna figure out which 1 is better I was wondering if any1 knows of any tournaments tht are coming up both folkstyle n freestyle in which college wrestlers can compete that are in PA. So if any1 knows can you help me and sum other wrestlers out and help us find them. |
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duh
2 years ago
no wrestling is going to hert your skills |
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hello
2 years ago
a people ive been wrestling about 2 years now my 1st year i made it 2 regionals and my second year i placed 3rd at states the point is i weight lifed and did all 3 styles 2 a tournament i got better in a lot of places and i felt more comfortable on my feet so just do them some of these people dont know what there talking about you see every ncaa champ has done all 3 so do them ad dont worry i promise youll get better |
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and also
2 years ago
every brandon wrestler that has been wrestling in collage has been a all american |
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yes
2 years ago
i agree with the dude below and the dude that said brandon wrestlers dont do any thing i collage wait next year when eric grajales wins the finals |
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knownothing
2 years ago
The last few posts are missing the piont it isnt about which style is better, but what mixture is ideal to devolope into a quality wrestler and the bottom line is as long as your wrestling your getting better, so you shouldn't worry about the style as much and wrestlers should just get on the mat and work no matter if it is free, folk, or greco. |
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2 years ago
That's the kind of excitement that fills stands.(sarcasm) |
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shrooms
2 years ago
so much excitement you can almost hear a pin drop at th US Open |
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2 years ago
If there was competitive excitement, there would be fans in the stands regardless. And since there really isn't, your point holds no water. |
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JP Pierre
2 years ago
the reason for the lack of attendance at those events is because you have individuals going to compete. you don't get the OSU or iowa croewd following their former favorites to the US Open. The NCAAs have fans that follow their teams. You know which wrestlers are showing up for three days. There is a season to follow and team titles on the line. I agree, you cannot compare the US Open to the NCAAs. As for competitive excitement and having to constantly wrestle to win, I have to five the nod to freestyle and Greco. |
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2 years ago
PAProud you forgot to add the ever exciting ball grab and the fact only about 4 moves are even used in freestyle anymore(gutwrench, a single, maybe a leg lace and lay on the mat and hope I don't get turned). You want to talk about excitement? Just look at the empty stands during the US Open and WTT's. So, exciting you can hear a pin drop. |
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PAProud
2 years ago
How can I forget to add stalling to the folkstyle list!!!! OMG. The most subjective call in any sport is cherished by folkstyle rule lovers! Why is that do you ask? I have no freaking clue! |
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PAPRoud
2 years ago
This one is easy. |
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JP Pierre
2 years ago
everyone has an opinion on this one. The birth of the team camp has pretty much become the biggest dent in the freestyle/Greco world. Once coaches realized they could get their kids 20 matches in folkstyle at various team camps around the country, they suddenly took the emphasis off of becoming a well-rounded wrestler. I don't think the college coaches intended this to happen, but with making so much money on these camps, they could not pass it up. |
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2 years ago
How well are those Brandon wrestlers doing in college after spending all that time being great at Greco? I believe Franklin Gomez is the only one who has had any success and I believe he was a transfer from another country. |
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noxx
2 years ago
How about folkstyle and a black belt in judo ! |
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hold up
2 years ago
2 the dude that said greco is weak you dont know wrestling i wrestle in florida and there is a team called brandon high school i know you heard of them and if you didnt look them up but almost every wrestler they have has won states and is ranked nationaly but my point is all they do is greco an there beast so if you dont know wrestling dont talk or misenform people to every wrestler mix all of them you get better every where doing that and do 2 a tournament and to all you old ass wrestlers you dont know what your talking about makes no sense |
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me
2 years ago
Not only will practicing all 3 styles make you a better wrestler (see below arguments), but it will also keep you fresh and loving the sport. Cross-training changes things up and keeps it interesting. We're all in the sport to have fun, right? Well let's keep it that way... |

Joe Williamson 2 years ago
During the summer time there are many options for wrestlers to choose from when it comes to tournaments. There are many freestyle and folkstyle tournaments. Which is more important to focus on to become a better wrestler? How much of the year if any should be focused on one style or the other? does it vary from wrestler to wrestler? Anything Else?