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Uploaded by Mark Bader | December 5, 2011

Speakers: Tom Brands, Tony Ramos, Derek St. John

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Hawkeye 1 year ago

We'll see about Steiber and Ramos. Both are great and it could very well depend on the day/venue. Oliver is not on another planet, Futrell nearly had him which showed everyone (including Steiber and Ramos) how beatable JO really is. St. John has more than one win over Welch and including one at NCAAs so not really an argument there (more just wishful thinking). Lucky for all of us, the matches are won on the mat not on paper and certainly not in any of our heads... @ The Truth - Penn St. was lucky to have Long as long as they did. He was a bag of problems that started in Ames and it was sketchy for Cael to bring him out east in the first place. It's not our fault he has a thing for 55 year old women. You're talking about an entirely different situation that is nothing more than a moot point.

The Truth 1 year ago

Stieber would rip Ramos apart he is not on the same level with Oliver either and lucky Sentes and long are not in the picture this year. Iowa is lucky Long is out and Alton (drew) got fat over the summer or P.State would be the clear #1

HA im sorry 1 year ago

but, stieber is ahead of ramos, its a very small margin but stieber is better.. but on that same note, oliver is almost on a different planet than the past 2.. and now.. St john and Welch are about equal, i know st john has a win over him, but welch can really turn it on at ncaas (semi finalist last year, being seeded 8th) but, like at 133... the #1 guy is almost on a different planet, especially the weekend of ncaas..

IndyRR 1 year ago

Shaping up to be a great year at 133 with Stieber, Ramos, and Oliver all in the mix. I'll take Stieber.

Anonymous Coward 1 year ago

I tell you what the personality and charisma coming off that stage is off the charts...its almost as interesting as watching paint dry....all jokes aside...it appears the iowa machine is back to dominate after a brief one year hiatus