Wrestling in Madison Square Garden

so what's more impressive? oliver's 12 in 3 minutes or dake's 5 in 30 seconds?

This is Div 1 NCAAs where guys workout 4-7hrs a day to be the best at what they love doing... Not to mention it was in MSG. If you aren't prepared for a war in the center of the circle, than be prepared to be mangled technically or physically. Taking someone down and letting them up is a way to enforce your will on them and break them both mentally and physically, which Jordan executed... it's a strategy if you're good enough to do it which he apparently is. Same thing goes for boxing with a Jab, just cause I've hit the guy 70 times with the same punch doesn't mean I'm going to stop until I win. It's a combat sport for a reason.

Any college or international wrestler will explain the "Mental State" you have to be in to compete at this level all season long and be successful. You cannot deviate from your plan and you must have the same mindset each time you walk out on the mat... What happens in the center stays there, wrestlers are great people off the mat, but in the center of that circle you need to be prepared to do battle, Oliver was the other kid wasn't, bottom line.

Wow! A clinic. All you haters...go away. D1 wrestling and he treats this kid like a JV middle school wrestler. I can't believe Oliver jumped TWO wt. classes! He is FUN to watch.

would I let a hammer on my middle school team do this to another kid in a match that clearly just started wrestling - No.

Would I let my D1 wrestler do this to another D1 wrestler - You damn right.

If it was me I would just tell people I scored 11 points in a match against Jordan Oliver. How many people can say that?

As for unsportsmanlike, no way was this out of line. This is a division 1 match. For what it's worth I doubt his opponent is whining about it.

This sport is a combat sport gladiators were forced to wrestle to death at time and ppl boo for something youre suppose to do which is dominate but I dont blame him after last years ncaas i wouldnt leave any doubt on the mat either

People complaining saying Oliver is "disgraceful" are the ones responsible for the pussification of America. Why even keep score at all, like they do in T-Ball for little kids, or raise the arm of the winner after a match. We wouldn't want the opponent that loses to feel bad for himself huh? Honestly, it's embarrassing that that this is even a debate.

That ref is Gary Kessel, and yes he was the assistant ref in his match last year. And guess what, he did tell the head ref, Mike McCormick he thought he had 2. But was overruled.

You want to see unsportmanslike, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndY3caXU2E (Terry Brands vs. Jeff Prescott) At least JO had the decency to put him out of his misery. I was at JO's match on Sunday. 8 take downs into it I felt like Apollo Creeds trainer when he was fighting Drago. Throw in the Towel!

this is an awesome display of skill and endurance. it is what you should do to a weaker opponent. if anyone complains that it is unsportsmanlike to get takedowns you are watching the wrong sport. that's the point of wrestling: to score points and get pins.

those of u stating JO is a punk are pathetic. stop hating!!! presley is a d1 wrestler. period!! in the arguably the toughest combat sport in the universe. anyone that has wrestled at the next level understands. are you really going to be upset with someone displaying dominance? thats kinda the goal. sucks to know wrestling "fans" like you exist. pu ssys. plz dnt raise a male child. our society is bad enough.

Howie Fartz, you are likely a low-functioning tea bagger with exceptionally small genitals. One of those Larry Craig / Ted Haggard / Jerry Sandusky conservatives.

I always wanted to live wrestle a National Champ. Not practice or at a camp, but really go at it.

Tom or Terry Brands were on my list. I would have had no chance to score on them, but dang what a thrill.
Anybody else?

Whoever says this is poor sportsmanship is a . You're probably a vegetarian, and that's why America is becoming so soft because people are so damn sensitive. When I was wrestling I enjoyed handin out horrible ass whoopens as well as receiving them is part of entertaining the spectators, to get the people more involved this is not acting you don't act like he got your leg