Technique Tuesday

There was a technique like this, demonstrated by Roy Hall. I can't find it now. it must not have been a tech. tues.

Looks like a combo of a low single/Ankle Pick.

Mike, I'll read your blog when I have a few moments. I'm certain that your perspective is interesting if nothing else.

"The questions have been good, and the format has forced me to write a good deal that I’ve been meaning to write; I’ll clean up some of the answers, and re-post them here. But for all I’ve written, it’s still a small part of what I really want to get across about wrestling. Too much of what is written about coaching consists of details, and too little of ideas." - Ray Brinzer 4/24/09

Sorry I was up late and it always comes back to wrestling. Sorry for thinking. If you don't want me to write it don't read it. If you like it, good, I'm glad you spent a minute thinking, especially with someone who's willing to talk to you instead of some guy who wrote a book and can say you're one of one million copies sold. And Tom I got some theories on argumentation here: http://miketamillow.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/master-debater/ I may have questionable advice but you'll realize I am good at taking it until I feel like I've been disproved.

Mike, I'm happy that you know that about yourself. I do like that you go on to prove my point with another one of your wildly fantastic, often rambling diatribes. Reading these reminds me of talking with my Uncle Chuck. A question he could sufficiently answer with a very simple and direct sentence or two often receives a 10 to 15 minute monologue that meanders in many different directions just to prove how much he knows before you'll get your answer. Either that or he just likes to hear his own voice. I still can't figure out which one it is. Oh, it's nice to meet you too.

I like your high school club coach Mike Powell. He's a very good man and makes me laugh the way he goes between being incredibley egomaniacal to immensely humble from moment to moment. He also has a nice, dry sense of humor and a keen eye for observation, which is generally spot on.
As for Andrew's technique, I never questioned it in the first place. He and I have wrestled before, so I know that his technique is solid which makes me more apt to give a listen to what he has to say. My comment had to do with your statement to Craig.
Let me know when you'll be in town next so I can set up a meeting with you and my Uncle. I'll get it on tape and post it here. It will be unbelievable.

First off, yes Tom, I am a pompous self-righteous jag. Hi it's nice to meet you, I'm Mike Tamillow.

Second off, let me relate the secret of success to you in a little story. Mike Powell, my high school club coach, mentioned that in these interviews Martin would ask people "what makes you so good?" And they would look at him like "I don't understand the question." Martin was trying to figure out the secret to their success. This guy won two national titles, he must have some secret, right? Some strategy he does, or some training method that no one else knows about. Coach Powell said it best: there is no secret to their success, so they have no idea how to answer the question. So insinuating that I profess to have the secret to success is a little insulting. I'm just stating the obvious. And when you state the obvious that contradicts someone else, yes you make someone look like an idiot. I apologize for this. I do this because it's important to remind people that the answer is right in front of their face, if only they might listen. But even after I state the obvious it still seems like there are people saying "no that will never work - I want to know the SECRET" If you really want to know the secret buy the book the secret or watch the DVD. More often than not the secret to success that you want to know is just a big scam to make money. It's a beautiful scam, and I do appreciate a good scam. If Jake Herbert or Cael Sanderson were showing this move, most people would probably be more inclined to believe it. (Didn't Cael use an ankle pick?) But Nadhir is showing this move. Nadhir has had some success, but Tom your question would probably be "does he know the secret to success?" before you accept that his technique is valuable to learn.

I didn't mean to come off so cynical in my initial comment, just my knee-jerk reaction to the move. The FHL happens to be my favorite technique to teach, so consequently one becomes aware of various defenses against it. This counter is not among those I would consider a serious threat to a GOOD FHL. Nadhir may have a very good feel for this particular counter, but I think it would be a very low % move to show a whole team. I have seen a lot of wrestling at all levels through the years (in person or via video), and I don't recall ever seeing this counter done. I may have seen it; but I don't recall seeing it.
I enjoy the Technique Tuesday offerings because there are some new ideas offered for various positions created in the sport, some that have higher % potential than others. I prefer to teach what works best most often for the majority of the team. For some, once they got the FHL settled in, there was no counter, ala Dave Schultz or Arsen Fadzaev. Like most techniques, the likelyhood of success depends on so many variables, which is what makes our sport so dynamic and boundless. Nobody knows it all.

Yes Craig and a high crotch is not going to work on a good wrestler either. I love when people shoot high crotches on me. I lick my lips for it. Why would a high crotch, one of the most basic moves in wrestling not work on me. Simple: because I know it's coming. And if you think I'm the only one who will say "Oh a high crotch, that move will never work" talk to Randy Lewis. I'm sure he will agree with me, he loves when people shoot high crotches on him. In fact talk to anyone who has good defense, it's a unanimous issue: the move "high crotch" is utterly useless on a good wrestler.

And yet we see this move at the highest level of wrestling. In fact the high crotch, the most basic moves, is the first move a world champion is likely to teach. Why... it doesn't work?
When you go on to combine the move (a high crotch) with a setup, you find a strange occurrence. The move once again works. When you anticipate your opponents reaction and continue to wrestle through it, a high crotch soon becomes your go to move. The technique is important not because it will always work, but because the one and only time that it works may be the only time it ever needs to work.
The move Nadhir is showing relies on the fact that Nadhir is continuing to wrestle the whole time. If Nadhir stops and thinks "Ok let me go for this move now" it's not going to work. Common sense.
That's what wrestling is. It's not a series of moves. It's a continuous attempt to outwit your opponent by feeding on his overcompensating to any move you do. Nadhir does a great job of continuously wrestling (if you have ever watched him wrestle) and when one move doesn't work he doesn't use that as an excuse not to score. What is the risk of trying this move? Nothing if you continue to move and go to the next move. You might as well try a move if it has not risk. And then if it doesn't work your opponent is going to have to react or at least hold position. You can switch to another move. But if it does work then you score points. And everyone has their weaknesses. Everyone has their breaking point. This move can work on anyone in the right place at the right time.
So yes, this move works just as well as a high crotch, I'd say better. Everyone knows the high crotch is coming. But who would expect Nadhir to shoot right into a front headlock only to anticipate hitting this move immediately after you lock the front headlock but before you realize you stuck your arm in too deep. It's wrestling. If you say ANY move won't work, it's because you aren't wrestling the move, you are doing the move.

Roy Hall showed this exact technique at his ATL clinic. He said Brent showed it too him because Za was hitting it on him.

I disagree with Jake on points of grammar. However, I do agree that Nadhir is the man. That is a fact that cannot be argued against, and this move works. I hope his opponents say it won't work just so they can watch it over and over again in slow motion on themselves.

this move won me 3 big ten titles and 2 ncaa championships i Gator nadhir is the man if you agree you can live if not.. see you soon..

The guy lets go of his head immediatly.

true, the defensive guy doesnt control the motion often, but if youre able to move the guy with the frontheadlock, by all means, this ought to work.

that's why you wrestle for northwestern and not iowa. wow