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October 26, 2008


With the upcoming election politics is around us to the point where it is insane. Just like everybody else Im pretty sick of it. I was sitting with Mark Disalvo from Central Michigan and watching the third and final debate and I marvel at how the media makes two dudes talking over dry complex issues a Superbowl event. In the post-game analysis they had like 10 analysts lined up giving their perspective. The media is pretty darn good at making whatever they want into an event and then making it exciting.

The thing I like about wrestling and sports in general as opposed to politics is that you cant really take results out of context and turn them around and manipulate a situation. In sports someone wins and someone loses and the clarity of it is obvious. The impact is real and final, you don't need to take a poll to see how things played out or wait 10 years. I also like this aspect about business. In most cases if you put out a product and make sure you take care of all the necessary details to get that product to market, the results are pretty telling. If people like the product you tend to do good, and if people don't, well you go back to the drawing board and tweak some part of the process. It is amazing, however, how politics tries to seep into everything from sport to business.


Most of you know that my brother helps run a site called Flotrack. It is based off the same concept as Flowrestling. Well I have learned a little bit about Track and Field since we started this business together. In Track and Field there was one coach who dominated the NCAA Track and Field world like no other...his name was John McDonnell. An Irish immigrant, he came over to the USA and got into coaching. To make a long story short he went on to win 42 NCAA titles in XC, Indoor, and Outdoor Track and Field during his coaching years at the university of Arkansas. Coaches tried to stop him anyway possible by accusing him of cheating and inciting investigations that always left him clear. It didn't really effect his results as he always produced the top caliber teams. He won championships which made others mad. They didn't like him for one reason or another, maybe because they didn't like the way he ate or talked to them or the way he dressed....who knows. You can bet if he didn't win 42 NCAA titles he wouldn't have gotten the same criticism.


For people that don't want to look at the results because they are too painfully obvious we get all kinds of distractions and drama that they incite. They point to arbitrary rules that are open to interpretation, they bring their ego or other peoples ego into the equation (often out of context). These people will rely on everything but results. They will say things like "John McDonnell puts out a great team but has to learn to follow the rules more." These same people out of spite may vote against John McDonnell for coach of the year or decade (as if he cares) even when it was painfully obvious that no one matched his performance.


The fact is that John McDonnell wasn't cheating or going against the principles that the NCAA holds for its student Athletes. That is probably why after his retirement last year they made an award for him. When you met him you might have liked him or disliked him but you have to judge him as a coach by the results and athletes he produced. He did great things for his teams. I hope one day we at Flowrestling can be the performer that John McDonnell was at the University of Arkansas. But unlike John McDonnell I don't want to do it for a team I want to help do it for the sport of wrestling.


And unlike John McDonnell Im not running a business against other wrestling businesses, like he was competing against other schools. Wrestling is too fragile a state to be fighting over a shrinking pie. The focus is on growing the pie. Some people may want to bring drama to the table because of their damaged egos by the fact of how adamant we are at forwarding wrestling in spite of their personal interests. Id rather focus on bringing results and repeated success with growing the wrestling pie.


We started this company as a different kind of company. We had the belief that as a basis we would do what was right for the wrestling community first and foremost. This is our founding principle and will never go against it. This goes even before making money, which for some is the sole purpose of a business. Why do we do that? We do this because we full heartedly believe that in the long run wrestling's interest and Flowrestling's interests are completely aligned. If wrestling benefits in the long run, then Flowrestling will benefit in the long run. "In the long run" is a key point because a lot of decisions we have made are not popular in the short run. However we believe these decisions are necessary for the long term success of the sport and will continue to make decisions that may hurt us in the short run to benefit wrestling in the long run.


It is a lot easier making tough decisions when you observe the Brands brothers day after day holding to what they know is true no matter how fierce the critics, or watching the calculated intensity of John Smith in a practice, or seeing the way Coach Tom Borrelli can see the bigger picture and weave through bureaucracy. I see guys like Jon Stutzman finding a way to make it work from the ground up and get pumped UP. Im observing the process first hand and learning everyday. These guys keep me in check in my own head because there is no way in the world I would do something for my own gain at the expense of wrestling which would in the end hurt them. So the next time you hear someone calling foul on Flowrestling or myself, look at the results of all our actions and ask yourself "Is anything inherently wrong with the product or the way the product was produced?", If your common sense says "no" than you should probably take their words with caution, it may be fear, their damaged ego, an inability to face the truth or a combination of all three talking. In the mean time we will be working night and day for wrestling, THE greatest sport in the world.


On another note Gear Up because this year is going to be an awesome YEAR! We will be at Super 32 on Saturday for our first big event of the wrestling season.

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#25
Martin Floreani   October 27, 2008 at 2:40am
Hey Guys Im going to stop comments on this blog. Im not trying to suppress dialogue but I believe whatever is between Jason and I shouldnt be the main topic of conversation on Flowrestling. We got a sweet season ahead of us and this blogs comments are getting pretty lame. Anyways Peace!!!
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#24
The Truth Comes Out   October 27, 2008 at 2:37am
Jason you really didnt answer any points of Martin. I know its easy to personal attack Martin but when it comes to it you didnt really answer anything Martin said.
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#23
For Both Jason And Martin   October 27, 2008 at 2:23am
Jason it sounds like this is between you and Martin and has warranted a public personal attack on Martin. Martin maybe give Jason some slack as he is a good guy.
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#22
Yeah, Right..   October 27, 2008 at 2:21am
Yeah, that's what you call it Martin, "Astonishment".... lol
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#21
Jason Bryant And J Robinson   October 27, 2008 at 2:11am
Jason Bryant is working for J Robinson but I doubt J even cares remotely about this.
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Jason Bryant With J Robinson   October 27, 2008 at 2:09am
Jason Bryant is working for J robinson right? Maybe J is just pissed at Flo for some reason.
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Jason Bryant   October 27, 2008 at 2:06am
Martin,
I only post on my name, so make whatever assumptions you like about the posts below. For the last 10 years, I've posted as my name, always have, always will. But it doesn't do you any good to continue to lie to your own fans.

You lied for the last two years and you're lying now.
You can ask Zeb Miller about "lecturing" and "harassing." He's told me directly how much he appreciates the help I've given him in helping his coverage for Flowrestling.
Spin it anyway you want, you've ripped and poked and prodded at me for long enough. You poke at a dog long enough, he's going to bite back.
This is my last and only comment on this topic further. I've said my piece, told it like it was and don't have anything to hide. You started this by taking uneducated shots at people who put a lot of time and effort into this sport.
My e-mail is . Anyone who feels the need to contact me over this matter can take it up with me personally.
Truth hurts, doesn't it.
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#18
Martin Floreani   October 27, 2008 at 1:57am
Actually that is false. Taken out of context by "RE: Dont Get it" AKA Jason Bryant. About two weeks ago I proposed a survey that list the top coaches in the country and the coaches on the "hot seat" or the lowest performing coaches. I think it is important to have this element in the media. I sureveyed randomly some of the top 25 teams from last year. About half the coaches got back to me. Some expressed concern about listing the bottom half but still thought it was important. They asked me to ask the media for input instead. So I did. I asked several media outlets who all responded to me with their listing and I also reached out to Jason Bryant. He said he would get a list to me the following Monday and agreed it was the best thing for our sport.

I receive word that on Monday he would not participate in the survey because he had conflicting interests. I asked for his input anonymously but he refused. Minutes later I found out he was harassing some of our "Volunteers" without my knowledge so I got pretty upset. Why couldnt he direct the complaint to me instead of these guys who are doing great things for our sport.
He wouldn't participate in our survey because he said he had conflicting motives, although he agreed the week before that it was the best thing for our sport to print the best coaches and coaches that were on "the hot seat". Why was he lecturing our volunteers behind my back?
That is the truth behind the message and I stand by it. My astonishment in the audio recording is there because I think it is ridiculous how a member of the media cant do what he admittedly believes is the best thing for the sport. That gets me pretty upset especially from someone on high a horse as Jason Bryant.
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#17
RE:I Dont Get It   October 27, 2008 at 1:27am
that was Martins response when Jason didn't want to do a Top 10 best coaches/worst coaches list.
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#16
I Dont Get It   October 27, 2008 at 1:24am
why is that bad? Am I missing something here?
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#15
Anonymous Coward   October 27, 2008 at 1:23am
whats wrong with that?
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#14
Re:Real Martin   October 27, 2008 at 1:18am
What a loser.
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#13
Real Martin   October 27, 2008 at 1:16am
#12
Whining?   October 27, 2008 at 1:03am
When is whining against the rules or chewing people out or any of the stuff stated?
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#11
Here You Go   October 27, 2008 at 1:01am
Here is just the small list of things I found from another site:

http://www.thewrestlingtalk.com/college-wrestling/15063-martin-floreani-gets-owned-7.html#post110957
I'm sure the link will get deleted in a matter of time.
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RE: RE:RE:RE: JC Tucker   October 27, 2008 at 12:52am
Apparantly this is over your head. The content is not in question. Never was. Its the BS way of going about getting it and possibly getting a lot of coaches in trouble in the process because of their lack of following the rules. Also, what's in question is whining and crying when he doesn't get his own way and then chewing people out who have been willing to work with him. Another thing that is in question is the lying to the public about how things really are.
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#9
It Seems   October 27, 2008 at 12:52am
The only rules Flo is breaking are the rules not to remain idle? What have they done that warrants a denial of all media passes?
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#8
RE: Remember   October 27, 2008 at 12:50am
What rules?
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RE:RE:RE: JC Tucker   October 27, 2008 at 12:49am
Im sure some people would want to see Flo no longer allowed on college campuses and I cant understand why? You seem almost happy about the idea!
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Z Flo Fan   October 27, 2008 at 12:38am
That was a amazing blog. I agree and bring that philsophy into my life. I hate it when coachs make excueses of why there not at the top of the podium. John Stutzman is a great coach and will be recognized as one of the best in the ncaa. Look at what Bill Barger did at Walsh I try to promote that and one day when I run a bussiness or a high school team I can do what John McDonnell and Bill Barger Dan Gable Red Aurbach Joe Torre John Wooden Bill Belicheck etc. Go flo and continue the dominacne
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#5
Anonymous Coward   October 27, 2008 at 12:30am
Martin people are so jealous of your stuff. Understand that this is what they have to do. They do not understand how you have done it so they try and pinpoint it by picking out arbitrary rules.
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RE:RE: JC Tucker   October 27, 2008 at 12:20am
Or Martin will be banned from every major college event and campus. I heard its coming soon because the guy is such a jerk and thinks the rules don't apply to him.
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RE: JC Tucker   October 27, 2008 at 12:04am
JC Tucker Martin doesnt follow a lot of rules! He should have way more boring coverage. That is rule numero uno. His videos are ridiculously interesting.

If martin doesnt follow some rules soon, Craig Sesker is going to be out of a job!!!!
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JC Tucker   October 27, 2008 at 12:02am
What rules does martin not follow? I think that is his point.... everyone just nit picks to try and find fault with what: The best fricken site in the world. The only reason people are trying to find fault with you Martin is cause your kicking butt and they are scared. What police force do they work for? I think it is Dauphy Duck Quack Force.

I dont buy their BS. Stick to moving forward and they will stick to being on their high horse. Why are those people obsessed with you? How does it affect them?
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Play By The Rules   October 26, 2008 at 11:52pm
Learn to follow the rules Martin and you wouldn't have so many people mad at you. you got a great site for content, but you have a lot to learn.
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Animated Or Adamant   October 26, 2008 at 10:14pm
Say Martin, I think you are animated about being adamant with reference to your honesty for the growth of the sport. Words are words, but we got the drift.....
(See what I mean in the fourth paragraph from the end?)
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