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My 2008 Olympic Experience

Martin Floreani | Profile
August 24, 2008

So I'm sitting in s Tokyo airport watching USA vs Brazil gold medal match in volleyball with only a blackberry in hand and I thought I would do the impossible of writing this whole blog with my thumbs.....

Overall china did OK with the Olympics, their wrestling logistics and organization was outstanding, getting into some of the other venues like the birds nest was a nightmare.....like 40 minute waits to just get inside the green, not even the stadium, and although security was the reason they had these delays I wasn't impressed with it. Taxis could be an absolute nightmare as well, and they were getting more greedy and a little more shady as the Olympics went on, like taking the long way around to a destination. Sometimes getting into a taxi would be your biggest problem, could be an hour long ordeal outside the Olympic green, doing this every time was a little old .....overall these are details in the big picture of a successful games.

China has invested 40 billion into the games and I really want to know what is going to happen after this whole thing is over. I loved smiling and high fiving with the top Chinese commy guards because I know they never remotely have that happen by their mannerisms before and after I approach them. I have to let them know that they are human to and their shit stinks just like the rest of us. I wouldn't do that without the games going on though.

The Chinese were basically correct about the pollution rolling out, but for the first 6 or 7 days it hurt my eyes and breathing. The fireworks at the opening ceremonies you saw on TV were fake, or preshot, because the smog was so thick on that day you wouldn't be able to see them. That along with the girl lip syncing because the real 10 year old singer wasn't beautiful enough doesn't really go along with the Olympic spirit. Many would argue a lot of things china does wouldn't go along with the Olympic spirit but this aint a political blog by any means so let's get back to the wrestling.

For the USA we secured 3 of the 72 distributed medals in wrestling and 1 of the 18 gold medals. I think everyone can agree this was about as low as we have gotten as a wrestling country. Terry brands had a pretty good showing as his two proteges, Mocco and Henry Cejudo did the best out of the whole freestyle team, But Mocco didn't get a medal as he couldn't convert in the clinch.

If the freestyle team had a dismal showing the Greco team had a horrible showing. One bronze medal out of 7 weight classes isn't acceptable for the USA.
The women's freestyle team had Decent showing as 3 of the 4 weight classes were in the medal round. That's not bad but still only one bronze medal to show for it means they missed out on key opportunities.

Things ain't getting easier: This is our worst showing in wrestling probably ever. There are many reasons for this but I'm going to focus on the major problem facing USA wrestling in the next couple of years. Unless a major change is made these Olympic games results in Beijing may be considered an outstanding showing for the USA relative to 2012 and 2016...... A scary thought.

The people that USA wrestling cannot lose as we start a new Olympic cycle are a wide variety of personalities and view points..... they are all important pieces of the bigger puzzle. They are symbolic and represent a lot of different people out there. Their decisions will be followed by others and their absence will have ripple effects.

1. Terry brands - If there is a person or such a thing that is incorruptible it is Terry brands. He was the mastermind behind Henry Cejudo.....USA s lone gold medal. USA wrestling needs his drive and his leadership for all the wrestlers that fit his mentality and style. Furthermore he is a person who if he doesn't believe in the system he can't put his heart and soul into it. USA wrestling needs Terry brands to believe in them because if he does than they know they are on the right track. Now I don't mean to suggest that USA wrestling has to be run with only all the ideals of Terry brands, but they have to have a system where a guy like Terry brands can work his art. The only way for Terry to truly work his art with enjoyment is if he believes in USA wrestling. If Terry brands has to work his art without enjoyment because he can't speak his mind, or even if he does it has no impact or he won't speak up for any other political reasons, he won't be at that organization for long.

2. Ben Askren - Before USA wrestling had a monopoly on anyone wrestler wanting to follow their athletic dreams. For people to express themselves creatively and use their talents to reach ultimate flo they had to try out for the Olympics where the best competition was. Now people can tweak their wrestling and become successful in MMA and still reach that flo. Furthermore they do not have to deal with relatively low recognition and salaries that would make any college graduate forced to take second jobs simply to be able to live like they lived in college. Even if you love wrestling it is hard not to be lured to this new promise land of freedom and opportunity. As Ben alluded to in his post Olympic performance, he may be heading in that direction. If a 4x finalist, 2x NCAA champ who lost a total of one period between the us open and Olympic trials on his way to becoming an Olympian, won't stick around for wrestling than USA wrestling, and his competitors at 74kg.....Tyrone Lewis and Ryan Churella are in serious trouble. If this happens USA wrestling and his competitors just lost a steel tool to help them get to the next level and get a gold medal in 2012......again steel sharpens steel.

3. Mo Lawal - The people that may need mo best, besides USA wrestling, are his USA competitors at 84 kg. Mo is a bundle of talent and he is a raw specimen bursting with potential. Furthermore he has a personality that is hard not to love. He is a media persons dream bc he always has something funny yet insightful to say... Which is a bonus to his wrestling skills. Steel sharpens steel on any level and you can't see better examples of that than in Russia, where they ritually leave world and Olympic champs sitting at home to watch the Olympics and wcs. The reason USA wrestling may lose Mo, is not because he doesn't love the sport but because of pure capitalism. Mo Lawal is starting to train for a career in MMA where he won't have to struggle for financial existence if he has the same type of success that he has had in wrestling. The Russians are set for life with a gold medal, furthermore the 2, 3, 4 and 5 guys are not trying to justify to their family members and ultimately themselves to follow their dream because they can't afford to buy an automobile. They are admired and revered by society and the guys ranked at 6, 7 and 8 want to move up the ladder. Mo doesn't come from a lot of money and wrestling should allow him a way up in societies economic ladder. If USA wrestling can't convince a guy like mo Lawal to stick around where he is all but guaranteed a spot in the top 3 for USA, then they lost any edge that they have had.

4. Steve Mocco - Steve didn't have the showing he wanted in the Olympics, for competitors that drives them to come back better and stronger in the next performance. Steve is a competitor if you have ever seen one. He also won't stay on a boat in turmoil to be a martyr as we saw with his transfer from Iowa to OSU in college. He understands what is needed to reach his full potential and isn't afraid to try other sports like he did in college with football. If Steve can't have the resources of Terry brands than he may just decide to make a departure move. Another huge reason to find a way to keep Terry Brands.

5. Adam Wheeler - Adam wheeler is a guy who has tasted Olympic glory but should want more. He is a surprise medalist with a bunch of future potential. Does he feel that USA wrestling can hold his future potential, or will it constrain it? Will he end up romping up his training for the gold or will he walk away from the table while he is ahead and move to something more promising?

6. Clarissa Chun - Here is a beautiful bright woman who is a fierce competitor ie.....very marketable for the sport. She reached the semifinals and was real close to becoming a finalist and medalist. This was her first Olympics and USA wrestling needs to find a way to keep athletes like Chun around. I doubt Chun is considering going to the MMA, but a person like Chun can be successful at a lot of things......wrestling needs to be one of them.

7. Sean Bormet - Like him or hate him, I guess he has as many haters as me, Sean does good work on many different levels of wrestling. His most powerful feature is the way he can connect all the levels together. His nationally recognized club was originally modeled after Ernie Monaco s, the edge in nj.....a club that USA wrestling saw as a threat and battled in the early days of its existence. Lucky for Sean he is on USA wrestling's good side, or maybe I should have it the other way around. Sean has started a trend in Illinois with iwrestling clubs and Illinois is one of if not the best states around come Fargo. He holds a lot of power in Illinois with his influence and knowledge.....not just in wrestling but in biusness know how on making a club economically feasible. At the end of the day we have to make wrestling self sustain and Sean is showing that it can be done. Sean is meticulous at constantly studying the sport and is rising the ranks of wrestling coaches fast at the national level. He was the mastermind behind Olympian Andy Hrovat yet still has to pay his way out to the Olympics because he is not formally an Olympic coach. Sean Bormet's loyalty to the top athletes, his ability to prepare the top wrestlers and his business know how make him someone USA wrestling needs to keep. Note: another variable for USA wrestling to be on guard is that Sean also trains some top MMA athletes.

8. Henry Cejudo, youngest US Olympic gold medalist in wrestling......enough said.

The day has come where the athletes and coaches have real options. The athletes that have been brought up in mans toughest sport are no longer at the mercy of it. They can get their fix elsewhere. This may seem like the doom for wrestling but I hope it becomes its savior. What is going to occur this next Olympic cycle is totally unique than what we have ever seen: free and open competition for USA wrestling to partake: all at the athletes and coaches benefit. Its an exciting time. USA wrestling to survive at an elite level will have to change its thought. The leaders will have to find ways to make Terry brands happy, not the other way around. They will have to convince the likes of Lawal, Askren, Mocco, wheeler and chun to go down the wrestlers path and not MMA or something else. USA wrestling will have to cut the fat out of their organization and change their perspective. Change is exciting and should be embraced.

So a couple hours later with two worn out thumbs, a USA sealed gold medal in volleyball, I'm halfway to LAX.

Time to get some sleep!!!!!



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#43
Big Man Coach   February 3, 2009 at 7:15am
I agree with concerned. I feel that much of our lack of support comes from people simply not being able to follow the rules. You cant expect the general public to learn these rules and then keep up with the constant changes. Our entire sport needs an overhaul from the ground level.
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Done   August 29, 2008 at 10:25pm
It's funny how all the racist comments made against Cejudo were allowed to remain until he won gold. Enough said is right. Mocco and Cejudo are both an absolute inspiraton. Thank you Coach Brands for your exceptional leadership. You are the future. Thank you to EVERY member of our US Olympic team.
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#41
Mature One   August 29, 2008 at 5:25pm
Nice of you to mention that Chun is beautiful...that sure does have alot to do with wrestling you fulking caveman.
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#40
Asiansensation   August 28, 2008 at 6:33pm
Many of you have to understand that our country is completely different then the others such as Russia. These other international wrestlers get to live a good, and regular life by just practicing and competing. In America, it isn't the same. Our wrestlers have to train AND have a job to be set financially. Our high school kids don't want to skip what many of us call, "the best years of our lives". Many highschool kids look forward to going to college and competing there. Thats the reason why we are not doing so well on the internation stage. It isn't because of MMA, media, coaches, USAWRESTLING, rules or the olympic wrestlers themselves. It's just how our country is.
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#39
Stephen Stonebraker   August 26, 2008 at 9:10pm
Joe

You're absolutely correct. I've gone to the World Team Trials a few times in my life, and would love to be able to go more often. Unfortunately time, and more unfortunately money do not permit me to do so. Wouldn't it be nice if you opened up a Us magazine or a People Magazine and saw pictures of celebrities sitting in the stands of wrestling events? I sure would like to see that. Seems everytime I open one of those tabloids, I see Brad Pitt and George Clooney at a New York Knicks game or Penelope Cruize out to a San Francisco Giants game.
You know how many pictures I've seen of popular icons at wrestling events? One. It was Robin Williams at a small high school wrestling tournament.
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#38
Georgia Wrestler   August 26, 2008 at 8:59pm
Does our poor showing have anything to do with the our lack of experience in Freestyle/Greco Roman style wrestling. I know this is an age old arguement, but the one person who skipped college to focus on freestyle won a gold medal!
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Super Concerned   August 26, 2008 at 7:27pm
We need sponsorship and a professional league. We need to put our heads together and find a way to make this happen.

Freestyle and Greco wrestling at the top level isn't exactly the most exciting thing to watch. The rules are absolutely horrible and super subjective. It makes no sense that a guy can score 3 takedowns to his opponent's 1 counter and still lose. Our most famous gold medal to the casual viewer (Rulon Gardner) was won because one man lost his grip. No actual technique was hit, he was big enough to cause a slippage in grip. How is that exciting for viewers? The new rules are just as bad. Balls in a bag. No seeding. No wrestle back. Hell, John Smith lost a match in the '92 Olympics and came back to win gold. That would be impossible now. The sport is not viewer friendly, is too subjective and confusing for people who don't know what is going on. In swimming, track, etc., there is a clear cut winner. In wrestling, you could lose a tied match, 1-1, 1-1 because you didn't score the last point.
Don't get me wrong, I love wrestling more than anything, but something has to change to get America's attention.
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#36
Ohio   August 26, 2008 at 10:00am
I met Sean many years ago while he was at Michigan. The guy is genuine and if you don't like what he is saying you should wonder why he is saying it. He is a fighter, ask him about his high school back yard boxing matches... he may still have the video. He doesn't sugar coat what he means, he's direct and shows strength when a wrestler needs it most. I will be bringing some of our wrestlers to his gym for a couple of sessions during the year. Let me put it to you this way. What ever you get from Sean in a match you earned it, he makes you fight for everything. That's what he teaches wrestlers, keep moving and fight for every point. He is the real deal.
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Joe   August 26, 2008 at 10:00am
Fan in NYC....I hear what you are saying in regards to our athletes. It is not just wrestling that is that way, it is almost all Olympic Sports. Unfortunately, wrestling does not have a speedo company like swinning or a shoe company like that track, that can transend to mainstream. Who besides a wrestler wants a singlet or a wrestling shoe. In swimming, Speedo can put huge money into the athletes because they can market their product to mainstream.

All of us that are questioning USAW, how many of you donated to the Fuel the Dream project? How many of you have donated to Wrestling 411? We want mainstream companies to back wrestling, how many people attended the Olympic Trials or better yet the World Team trials. You think a company is going to back wrestling when you go to the World Team trials and we are lucky we have a 1000 people in the stands.
Its all about doing our part. We are all responsible.
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#34
Brandon   August 26, 2008 at 9:21am
why are people ballwashin martin, come on he is a marble mouth
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FAN IN NYC   August 26, 2008 at 9:08am
Joe, you're absolutely right. But you know what? As soon as someone says anything about the Olympic team that someone else disagrees with, it gets personal.

Stephen's absolutely right about supporting the athletes better. I read somewhere about Mocco, his wife and baby staying in Terry Brands's basement for 2 months at the OTC before they found their own place. Forget the wrestlers themselves, how many wives are gonna' go thru' that?
As has been said before, it ain't like that in Russia. Once, after he won one of his world championships, Saitiev walked outside his house and found a Mercedes in his driveway. You think that happens in the US?
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#32
Joe   August 26, 2008 at 6:52am
Is this blog about the Olympic Team or praising Martin? Let's get back on target.
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Andy   August 25, 2008 at 11:23pm
You the man Martin! Keep doing your thing. Screw the clowns who want to knit pick and over-analyze. You're doing an awesome job. Who cares to what extent the work is being done? you're more than doing your part.
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Jason Bryant   August 25, 2008 at 6:57pm
"does work harder for this sport than any other person right now,"

And you know how hard everyone works for this sport? There's a lot of working media professionals who have put years into this sport for even less gratification.
To say someone works harder without any first hand knowledge is irresponsible and baseless.
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Usawrestling   August 25, 2008 at 6:31pm
alright, bottom line is this is martin's site. he does work harder for this sport than any other person right now, and for almost no gratification. I have no problem with people questioning his ideas, but when people get on this site and talk about the one person who made this possible. that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. it's plain ignorance. the guy is just trying to help the sport and make usa better.
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RE: Storppey   August 25, 2008 at 5:22pm
Saitiev won in 96, 04, and just now in 08.
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Stephen Stonebraker   August 25, 2008 at 5:02pm
USA does need to get on board and change things. I'm not sure if "letting people go" is the answer. I think that perhaps the USA backing their olympic athletes better would be the answer.
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Anonymous Coward   August 25, 2008 at 4:47pm
Reach that flo...ok we get it...flo wrestling.Silent H deserves respect - he won the way things are set up to qualify for the Olympics.Let Mo go. Let them all go.Face it - this sport is losing the college programs that feed it, the set up here in the USA needs to be changed so athletes get support to train as a full time job. But we had the worse showing in years.Maybe a shake up is called for.So what if all these wrestlers leave to go to MMA? A new generation will rise up.
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Fan In NYC   August 25, 2008 at 4:18pm
Hrovat beat Lawal fair and square in the trials. That said, Lawal would've done better in the Olympics. It's a matter of style. You gotta be able to put up points. Lawal does that; Hrovat is a more defensive type of wrestler. And that's not gonna' get it done at the international level, where there's too much offensive firepower to sit back and say "You can't score on me."
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Anonymous Coward   August 25, 2008 at 4:01pm
I'd rather have Andy Hrovat at 84, than I would Mo Lawal. Lawal is a great wrestler, but he's a natural talent, God given ability competitor whereas Hrovat is a wrestler who wrestles with a lot of heart, determination and perserverance.
You spoke about the Olympic spirit as if it meant something to you. Why not put your beliefs and aspirations into Andy Hrovat? People act like if Lawal would have went to the Olympics, he would have medaled. Well you know what, if Lawal is that much better than Hrovat then why did Hrovat beat him? Why has Hrovat stuck him in under 40 seconds before?
I'm not harping on Lawal. I'm not anti-Lawal, whatsoever. What I am, is pro-Hrovat and I want to see him starting getting more credit and backing from the fans. You want heart, determination, passion and a willingness to work as hard as he has to in order to be successful? You want someone who proves day in and day out through his actions how bad he wants to be an Olympic champion? If so, your desire for that person lies in Andy Hrovat.
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Storppey   August 25, 2008 at 3:22pm
question. didn't Slay beat B. Saitiev back in 2000. How come I read somewhere on this site that Saitiev was 3 time gold medalist. What yrs.?? He also has a brother A. Saitiev
Someone fill me in on these 2 guys. thanks
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MP   August 25, 2008 at 2:06pm
The problem I have is when you say that Martin has done more for this sport than anyone. That disrepects a lot of good people in the sport who have put in long hours and have done a ton for the sport. There is people out there doing stuff for hte sport on a daily basis that do it behind the scenes and wish not to promote themselves. I have never said anything negative about the website because it is great. I do have some issues with some things he says. I do have a problem when people are attacked by other posters when they disagree with him.

Martin is stating the obvious here. Now who is going to offer the solution to find the funding for these athletes so they want to stay for more than one Olympic cycle. It is easy to point to the problems, its another to actually fix them.
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Reid Worley   August 25, 2008 at 1:44pm
Not true, I just think that Martin deserves A LOT more respect than some of the trolls here give him. Those wrestlers and coaches that were mentioned have been great for the sport, but haven't done near as much as Martin has. Now we can see matches and behind the scenes stuff that was impossible to see before Flo. If you read my comments, you'll see that I don't always agree with everything he says, but do you really think that we can afford ANYTHING other than sticking together as a community and doing what we need to do to avoid falling off the face of the earth? We already have bad reputations in this country and we aren't helping matters any by disrespecting the 1 person who puts together the greatest website for wrestling, which is free to use might I add, and has given back more to the sport than any of us ever will. Wake up people, our sport is almost dead. If we don't band together to change that, it's never going to get any better. The same people are prolly knocking Askren too, but more people know who he is and what he does than have ever heard of Kendall Cross who is an Olympic Gold Medalist, but did it all under the radar.
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#20
MP   August 25, 2008 at 1:32pm
Reid, so what you are saying is if you don't agree with Martin, then you don't care about the future of the sport. Youhave attacked every person that has ever disagreed with Martin.
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Reid Worley   August 25, 2008 at 1:19pm
Simple, wrestling in the US basically is on hospice care right now and it's crazy idiots like Martin who are trying to put the difibrillator on our sport. It actually strikes me as odd why so many people who honestly don't care about the future of wrestling even come to this website. BTW, most every pro MMA fighter in the US has less money than assistant coaches who train in wrestling. Only the VERY top athletes make anything above poverty in that sport.
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Storppey   August 25, 2008 at 1:15pm
bottom line is ...the guys didn't get it done. That is it. It's not USA wrestlng's fault or anyone else. Ask the wrestlers. They won't make excuses. They just got beat. Go back 4, 8, 12 years and those wrestlers weren't getting any more support than our guys today. But they came through and won the medals. If you think this is the way the USA wrestlers will perform in all future Olympics you are nuts. And to suggest that it will even get worse if we don't make some major changes is even crazier. Martin I love your website and your comments make for some good discussion. But I disagree. USA is the greatest country in the world! And there are plenty of good wrestlers out there regardless of how many go into MMA. Any one who has been around wrestling long enough knows that if you run the Olympic trials (or any other national caliber tourney) on another given day you get an entire new group of champions. Wrestling is very deep at any weight class in the USA. Do we really think that the quality of our Olympic team is gone because many are heading into MMA.
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Brandon   August 25, 2008 at 1:08pm
Yeah like gable, sanderson, baumgartner, branch, jon smith, j robinson. I love the website too but your trying to say to wrestlers who are getting squat to wrestle for 4 years for a medal that nobody outside of this universe cares about. come on lets be realistic. do you know how it feels to be broke, its not good and this country runs around money. thanks for the dap mp
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MP   August 25, 2008 at 12:32pm
Reid, why is it you attack every person that says something that is even slightly negative towards Martin or disagrees with Martin? There is alot of people that have done alot for the sport.
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Reid Worley   August 25, 2008 at 12:28pm
I'm not so sure that I could point to 1 single person who has done more for wrestling in the past few years than Martin Floreani. Sure, not everything he says can be taken as the gospel, but he does make more than a few great points and has some fantastic ideas. Martin brought us Flowrestling, which is the ONLY company that cares more about wrestling than themselves. So many of us are spoiled now that we forget what life was like before Flo. For a wrestling junkie like me, I couldn't imagine what I would do now if they took Flo away, its kinda like cell phones in that regard. Sure we got along fine without them, but I can't freakin funtion without mine now, nor would I want to. "Brandon" is obviously just another young internet troll looking for attention and deserves the same respect that all trolls get..none. Martin, keep on keepin on.
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Brandon   August 25, 2008 at 11:41am
Look i respect what he is doing for the sport, but to deni these athletes an opportunity to make alot of money in mma is insane. Its not mma's fault that usa wrestling is not paying these athletes the right amount of money that should be givin to them. Ok lets have these guys and their families be homeless and desditute in order to get a gold silver or bronze. What a country we live in huh lets deni them a capitalist opportunity.
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#13
Reppinva   August 25, 2008 at 11:29am
If Ben askren deserves do be in this, then so does Jake Deitchler
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Fan In NYC   August 25, 2008 at 11:07am
Brandon, I've never seen so many people get down on a guy (Martin) who's doing a good thing for wrestling. If it was up to you, wrestling would slip into oblivion. It'd be on Iowa Public Television for Iowans only, and that's it. You gotta' grow the thing or it'll wither and die.
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Brandon   August 25, 2008 at 10:57am
dummy
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Brandon   August 25, 2008 at 10:57am
Martin is a
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Brandon   August 25, 2008 at 10:56am
Stop trying to convince these people to stay at something that does not benifit them financially. You sir are a moron for such actions. Please do the right thing and let people choose there own paths in life and stop being selfish. There is plenty of talent for the next olympic cycle. Nobody is getting on Cael Sanderson for doing one turn and moving on with his life. This is not a career this is a dream that only certain people can achieve and money rules this world we live in. Don't make these atheletes sacrifice being poor to get a medal that won't equate to any cache in this country.
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Fan In NYC   August 25, 2008 at 7:35am
Thank you for calling like it is.

I still worry that not enough serious wrestling fans think our performance in wrestling at these Olympics was "dismal" and "horrible," or care.
To my mind, if we're not competitive internationally, it really diminishes us as a wrestling nation. It's sort of like watching NCAA Division III sports, knowing in the back of your mind that there's a Div. I out there that kicks butt.
More importantly, I think a lot of people outside the sport think that way. If all they know is what they see every four years at the Olympics, what are they gonna' think?That's if they even get to see us at all. Think how hard we had to lobby to get coverage.
Personally, I don't understand the appeal of MMA at all. But if we're losing guys like Mo Lawal and Ben Askren to MMA, then it's a serious threat to our sport.
Or should I say, one more serious threat to our sport.
Somebody better push back, do something. Or else . . .
P.S.: Don't listen to the haters out there, Martin. You are an energetic popularizer of our sport. And who's kidding who? We need all the help we can get.
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Anonymous Coward   August 25, 2008 at 3:43am
i think writing on a blackberry constitutes as nuts..and just one more reason martin is the man. i wish everyone loved this sport as much as u martin. usa would be much more successful. and deitchler doesnt need to be in here. these are pretty much usa's top wrestlers martin chose to write about and jake is good but def. not one of our top guys..
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Anonymous Coward   August 25, 2008 at 12:48am
The only way we are going to do well is have our wrestlers make a career out of the international competition. Between our 3 freestyle finalists last year; kelly, sanderson and abas, only one even tried to come back. It seems like other countries are giving more time. I know money is the main concern, but the whole mentality behind the American freestyle wrestler seems to be that they have one shot and that's it. I thought it was interesting for Cejudo to say he was not sure if he was going to keep competing internationally. Being the youngest gold medalist I thought he would be excited to try and get another. We need to keep all of our good guys wrestling.
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BHiatt   August 24, 2008 at 10:34pm
Dietchler was inspired by Cejudo --- and is following his example in going for the 2012 gold. It'd be great to have both of them be leaders in their respective styles for years and years to come.
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#4
Chris Turner   August 24, 2008 at 10:12pm
Martin wrote this on a phone going on no sleep, give him a break.
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Anonymous Coward   August 24, 2008 at 7:51pm
corektion jake dietchler
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Youngster   August 24, 2008 at 7:50pm
yake dietchler didnt need to be in ths blog
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BHiatt   August 24, 2008 at 6:49pm
You forgot Jake Dietchler.
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