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Not sure I get the changes at 170 considering the S-32 results. Kee takes 5th and moves from 6th to 5th. Vonegidy and Epperley drop one taking 8th and 4th respectively. Seems to make sense. But Renda takes 3rd and drops a spot??
Willie, you have Bo Jordan ahead of Zain Retherford on you senior board but reversed on your P4P board. Can I assume that means you think Retherford is better ( or more proven) today but Jordan is a slightly better prospect in your view?
ESPN and most sites have premium paid for content. It is incredibly difficult to have a 100% free profitable website. I would guess impossible with fairly narrow (small) audience for wrestling.
Great job Flo. It is an amazing resource and I see and enjoy the value. thanks for all you guys do and with good humor to boot!
I just meant if u could give a little comment...such as... joe jones got pounded at super32 and he dropped to number 10 got beat by so and sokeep up the good work
chucke, i can answer questions here. Sr big board should be updated in a week or so
thanks Noel, much appreciated.just to note, SR's were ordered prior to Fargo. Underclassmen were all done post-Fargo.so when i'm done with FR & JRHS (this weekend) I'll come back and update SR's shortly thereafter.
Willie, this is incredible stuff man...Flo just keeps getting better. Great work everyone at Flo
It's amazing how people complain about paying someone for providing a service. Do you get paid for the job you do? Pathetic
Wrestling is dying because most of us who had our lives changed by it arent willing to throw a little money at it to grow it. I have always thought flowrestling was revolutionary and still do. Hiring WIlly was genius and when you couple him with Bader, Zeb and JoeFlo you actually have a media team that loves the sport as much as their intended audience. I love watching Max Kellerman because I believe he loves boxing more than anyone else and because of it I will pay for his blog-- same thing here --I appreciate what Willy has more passion than most so I will pay for that. If you want intermat prices and to deal with Josh Lowe than go for it -- if you would rather listen to Jason Bryant than Mark Bader go for it -- This wrestling junky thinks the guys at FLO are worth a few hundred bucks a year. I spend more than that on things that have had no impact on my life.
Wrestling is dying because most of us who had our lives changed by it arent willing to throw a little money at it to grow it. I have always thought flowrestling was revolutionary and still do. Hiring WIlly was genius and when you couple him with Bader, Zeb and JoeFlo you actually have a media team that loves the sport as much as their intended audience. I love watching Max Kellerman because I believe he loves boxing more than anyone else and because of it I will pay for his blog-- same thing here --I appreciate what Willy has more passion than most so I will pay for that. If you want intermat prices and to deal with Josh Lowe than go for it -- if you would rather listen to Jason Bryant than Mark Bader go for it -- This wrestling junky thinks the guys at FLO are worth a few hundred bucks a year. I spend more than that on things that have had no impact on my life.
Wrestling is dying because most of us who had our lives changed by it arent willing to throw a little money at it to grow it. I have always thought flowrestling was revolutionary and still do. Hiring WIlly was genius and when you couple him with Bader and Flo you actually have a media team that loves the sport as much as their intended audience. I love watching Max Kellerman because I believe he loves boxing more than anyone else and because of it I will pay for his blog-- same thing here --I appreciate what Willy has more passion than most so I will pay for that. If you want intermat prices and to deal with Josh Low than go for it -- if you would rather listen to Jason Bryant than Mark Bader go for it -- This wrestling junky thinks the guys at FLO are worth a few hundred bucks a year. I spend more than that on things that have had no impact on my life.
kevin, it's kinda true. i developed this whole concept because i was a college football recruiting junkie that also loved wrestling.the people who subscribe to premium college football recruiting services (like i did) do so happily.
Oh, I see, if I was just a little more care free with my money wrestling would be more popular. I bet football, baseball, and basketball are more popular because their fans never complain about anything. And of course you are right if my opinion differs from yours I should just keep quiet that is the best route to progress.
I have no problem paying for this. It is very professional and informative and takes an amazing amount of work. Football has all kinds of recruiting sites like this and you wonder why our sport has a hard time becoming popular in the main stream? Quit ing!! You get what you pay for and this is more than worth it in my opinion.
We finally get something professional that requires an amazing amount of time and work. Football has all kinds of sites like this and we get something that is first rate finally and all people do is about it! I had no problem paying for it. It is a hell of a deal from what I can see so far and I had no problem paying. You wonder why our sport has such a hard time becoming popular to the main stream?!...This is one of the very reasons!!!
thanks for the compliment, Kevin. it's a real grind putting all this together. personally i think its worth it to an avid wrestling fan. and, if i say so myself, vastly superior to anything else out there. when it's all done, it will be sweet. i think if you try it for a month, you'll find the yearly subscription worth it.
Guess you can look at what I said as complaining. I'm just saying if the cost was half what you are asking I'd be a buyer today. I now what quality I'd be getting, Willie you do great work. Just saying you could get twice as many subscribers at $50 than you will get at $100 therefore taking in the same amount of money while at the same time having twice the number of informed fans. I'm a capitalist and am fine with you selling your product for whatever you want to change. But, as a consumer I'm not buying.
3x's the cost but an exponentially better product with more information. honestly i really don't know why anyone would rely on intermats profiles. how many are complete? like 10%?if you're satisfied with that, by all means stick with them. our service offers much much more. full profiles on every kid with a comprehensive list of accomplishments. does intermat have that? individual results against every top ranked kid they've faced. does intermat have that? results that link to the video of that match. scouting assessment. college list. there's really no comparison.but if you're comfortable with the a wholly incomplete product like intermat, stick with them. why complain?
Wow, I thought I was interested in this subscription service until I saw the price. It is 3x the cost of what I can pay and get the same information plus more on intermat. I love what flo does and since I frequently take advantage of the free content that you offer I wouldn't mind sending you some of my money to support your growth which I believe is doing amazing things for the sport of wrestling. The cost is ridiculous. I am a computer guy by trade so I realize the cost and time that go into things like this but I am almost certain you would get many many more subscribers if you had the cost closer to the going market value for this type of stuff.
just to add to what martin said, there's no way we could undertake a project of this scope by just adding it to techwave membership. its a completely different project requiring new resources, technology, and time allocation.
Can you put together a Global Flo price for Tech Wave and Flo Insider?...if you added them together and discounted it you might get more subscribers...
Why? We are offering MORE for MORE. We wouldnt be able to pull Floinsider off under the technique wave model. We ran the numbers and looked at it. Furthermore we didnt take anything away. In fact having this is going to enable us to do even more technique stuff because we were able to get another hire into Flowrestling because of Floinsider. We arent forcing you to purchase anything and we arent raising the price on anything we already do. Nothing else in your life do you get mad at having the option of getting more for more...so why should it piss you off here?
You guys getting my subscription then pimping me for another fee to be an insider pisses me off.
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